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Charles & Theodosia Allen 1837-1871 ???
« on: Friday 30 December 11 16:29 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help me locate Charles & Theodosia Allen on the 1841,51 & 61 census or give me a clue what else may have happened to them after their wedding on Sep. 13th 1837 at St Mary's Church, Marylebone. Theodosia was living at 47 Edware Road at the time of the marriage ?


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Willis--Polstead, Stoke & Colchester
Bones--Purleigh & Danbury
Humm--Woodham Mortimer & Great Henny
Ong--Woodham Mortimer
Osborne---London & Sible Hedingham
Guckes---Kent & London
Ingram--Wrotham
Ridley--Ightham
Root--Trottiscliffe
Hollands--Wrotham
Wagstaff--Fingringhoe & Birch
Brewster--Writtle
Martin--Polstead
Chippington--Stoke
Gillham--Dartford, Poplar & Otford
Lawrence--Dartford

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Re: Charles & Theodosia Allen 1837-1871 ???
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 December 11 16:33 GMT (UK) »
What occupation was given?
What was Charles' address?

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Re: Charles & Theodosia Allen 1837-1871 ???
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 December 11 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Do you know how old they were at the time of the marriage or where they were born?
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Tagg, Bowyer (Berkshire/Surrey), Adams, Small, Pratt, Coles, Stevens, Cox (Bucks), Grocott, Slater, Dean, Hill (Staffs/Shropshire), Holloway, Flint, Warrington,Turnbull (London), Montague, Barrett (Herts), Hayward (Kent), Gallon, Knight, Ede, Tribe, Bunn, Northeast, Nicholds (Sussex) Penduck, Pinnell, Yeeles (Gloucs), Johns (Monmouth and Devon), Head (Bath), Tedbury, Bowyer (Somerset), Chapman, Barrett (Herts/Essex)

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Re: Charles & Theodosia Allen 1837-1871 ???
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 December 11 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Found the marriage record Charles Allen shoemaker, address Enfield to Theodosia Asbourne.  Both of full age.
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Tagg, Bowyer (Berkshire/Surrey), Adams, Small, Pratt, Coles, Stevens, Cox (Bucks), Grocott, Slater, Dean, Hill (Staffs/Shropshire), Holloway, Flint, Warrington,Turnbull (London), Montague, Barrett (Herts), Hayward (Kent), Gallon, Knight, Ede, Tribe, Bunn, Northeast, Nicholds (Sussex) Penduck, Pinnell, Yeeles (Gloucs), Johns (Monmouth and Devon), Head (Bath), Tedbury, Bowyer (Somerset), Chapman, Barrett (Herts/Essex)

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Re: Charles & Theodosia Allen 1837-1871 ???
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 December 11 16:51 GMT (UK) »
There is actually a Charles Allen age 30 shoemaker born out of county in Enfield in the 1841 along with Mary.


Piece: 653  Bk: 2  Fo 22 Page 1

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Tagg, Bowyer (Berkshire/Surrey), Adams, Small, Pratt, Coles, Stevens, Cox (Bucks), Grocott, Slater, Dean, Hill (Staffs/Shropshire), Holloway, Flint, Warrington,Turnbull (London), Montague, Barrett (Herts), Hayward (Kent), Gallon, Knight, Ede, Tribe, Bunn, Northeast, Nicholds (Sussex) Penduck, Pinnell, Yeeles (Gloucs), Johns (Monmouth and Devon), Head (Bath), Tedbury, Bowyer (Somerset), Chapman, Barrett (Herts/Essex)

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Re: Charles & Theodosia Allen 1837-1871 ???
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 December 11 16:53 GMT (UK) »
I have some Allens in the area at the time yours all using St Mary's Church - not a Charles and Theodosia though. I wonder if there is a family connection as the Allens seem to be a large family in Marylebone.

A common middle name with my lot is Kindred or Kendrid - could there be a connection?
McLeods - Hartlepool, Liverpool, Inverness(?)<br />Simpsons - Carlisle, Westmorland<br />Harris - Carlisle, Kent<br />Reads - Birmingham and Staffordshire<br />Allens - Marylebone London<br />Zych - Poland
Holmes - Bawdsey, Suffolk
Perks - Hampshire
McQueen - Carlisle
Carrick - Carlisle
Haugh - Carlisle
Irving - Irving
Collett - Bredon, Worcester
Harrison - Carlisle
Knight - Carlisle
Thompson - Carlisle
Johnstone - Carlisle
Rogerson - Dumfries and Carlisle
Wood - Ontario

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Re: Charles & Theodosia Allen 1837-1871 ???
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 December 11 16:56 GMT (UK) »
There is actually a Charles Allen age 30 shoemaker born out of county in Enfield in the 1841 along with Mary.


Piece: 653  Bk: 2  Fo 22 Page 1
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Tagg, Bowyer (Berkshire/Surrey), Adams, Small, Pratt, Coles, Stevens, Cox (Bucks), Grocott, Slater, Dean, Hill (Staffs/Shropshire), Holloway, Flint, Warrington,Turnbull (London), Montague, Barrett (Herts), Hayward (Kent), Gallon, Knight, Ede, Tribe, Bunn, Northeast, Nicholds (Sussex) Penduck, Pinnell, Yeeles (Gloucs), Johns (Monmouth and Devon), Head (Bath), Tedbury, Bowyer (Somerset), Chapman, Barrett (Herts/Essex)

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Re: Charles & Theodosia Allen 1837-1871 ???
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 December 11 19:46 GMT (UK) »
The transcription for Theodosia is wrong. Her surname was Osborne and her address at the time was 47 Edgware Road. Whilst Charles was living in Enfield. As Theodosia came from Sible Hedingham, Essex it is always possible Charles came from further afield also. You are correct about the number of Allen's in Marylebone who may or maynot be related to Charles.
Its very unusual not to have any "possibles" on the census. It normally means the people have died or emmigrated. But the fact Theodosia suddenley appears years later makes me think that they are "hidden" in the census somewhere.

I have found out that 47 Edgware Road is now a Deli. and so perhaps was always a shop where Charles ran his Shoemakers from. Can't find any trade directories old enough to help. Also from what I am discovering the Edgware road was still pretty much in the countryside in 1837. I am not local so at a disadvantage trying to piece together all the clues.

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Willis--Polstead, Stoke & Colchester
Bones--Purleigh & Danbury
Humm--Woodham Mortimer & Great Henny
Ong--Woodham Mortimer
Osborne---London & Sible Hedingham
Guckes---Kent & London
Ingram--Wrotham
Ridley--Ightham
Root--Trottiscliffe
Hollands--Wrotham
Wagstaff--Fingringhoe & Birch
Brewster--Writtle
Martin--Polstead
Chippington--Stoke
Gillham--Dartford, Poplar & Otford
Lawrence--Dartford

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Re: Charles & Theodosia Allen 1837-1871 ???
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 December 11 20:00 GMT (UK) »
So just where was she 'later' and with whom ?

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