Death of Elizabeth (Betty) Bulmer nee Beswick

[Nanna5]

Searching for records of Betty's death. She was married in Scalby abt 1808 to Richard Bulmer (b. abt. 1789 Barnby, Yorkshire; d. 1819 Lythe, Yorkshire). Believe she may have died around 1816 following the birth of her youngest child Thomas (b. Wykeham, Yorkshire) but have not yet found evidence to prove this. If she did die in 1816 and Richard in 1819 wonder what happened to the children - Sarah (b. abt. 1809 - Brompton by Sawdon); Richard (b. abt.1811 -Lockton); George (b. abt. 1814 - Lockton) emigrated to Australia in 1844; Thomas (b. 1816 Wykeham) emigrated to Australia in 1841.
Sorry this became a very complex post.  Very grateful for any assistance.

[CaroleW]

Hi

Could she possibly have re-married?  How old would she have been around 1820

[Nanna5]

Hi and thanks for your suggestion. There has been some belief among fellow Bulmer family historians that Richard had remarried some time after Thomas's birth but I have seen no definite evidence of that (not to say that its not out there somewhere!). That is one of the reasons it was thought that Betty had died around 1816. She would have been only about 23 at the time of Thomas's birth in 1816. Hopefully some evidence will turn up.
Thanks again

[horse000]

Hi

There is a possible death for Elizabeth (though may be a bit too far away) and a possible 2nd marriage for Richard...

Source, Family Search:
25 July 1816 Elizth. Bulmer, Catterick, bur.

Source, IGI (Extr.)
17 Feb 1823 Richard Bulmer & Sarah Wass, Hawnby, mar.

Hope this is of some help.

Regards
Geoff

[Nanna5]

Hi horse000,
Thanks for your input re Betty Bulmer. That burial you mentioned could be a possibility I guess but yes, does seem to be some distance from where her last child Thomas was born in Wykeham, Yorkshire in 1816. Also not sure of the marriage of Richard you quoted, as he died and was buried in Lythe, Yorkshire in 1819.  This one has been a mystery for quite some time but we aren't giving up yet!

[horse000]

Hi

Yes, you have a bit of a mystery on your hands...

Your post didn't clarify Richard's death being as early as 1819, possibly due to your 'fellow historians thinking that he had remarried' hence my looking for a marriage.

However, there is a death in 1819 as you say: Source, NBI, 21 Sept 1819 Richard Bulmer aged 30, Lythe, St Oswald, bur.

If Richard died in 1819, 3 years after Betty died, there must be a question of what happened to the children, unless he remarried between Betty's apparent death in 1816 and his apparent death in 1819...

Regards
Geoff

[horse000]

Hi again

Just had a quick look at the numbers:

If Elizabeth (Betty) was about 23 when she died, she must have been born about 1793. If she married in 1808 she must have only been about 15 years old... whilst not unheard of it was still very young.

Regards
Geoff

[PatriciaHug]

Hello Nanna5,
I do hope you are still accessing replies to your query.
I believe Betty Bulmer (nee Beswick) was buried at Wykeham on 29 June 1831. Her abode was Ruston, which is close to Wykeham, Snainton (where she was born) and Brompton by Sawdon where she was baptised.  Betty and Richard's last child Thomas was baptised at Wykeham in 1817.
Also, we all have the wrong Richard Bulmer.  Richard Bulmer, son of Samuel, born in Barnby, Yorkshire and baptised at Lythe on 21 September 1789 to parents Samuel Bulmer and Elizabeth Stonehouse cannot be ours.  From Parish registers now available we know that Richard married Ann Watson at Lythe on 24 March 1814.  They had 4 children -Mary (1814); Elizabeth (1815); William (1817) and George (1819).  There is a memorial inscription at Lythe - "To the memory of Richard Bulmer who died 19 Sep 1819 aged 30 years. Also Ann his wife who died 20 Mar1843 aged 58 years. [3 line verse] Also Mary daughter of the above who died in infancy."
It has been accepted that Richard Bulmer of Barnby married Elizabeth (Betty) Beswick; they had children, and that Richard died and was buried at Lythe 21 September 1819, aged 30.
Richard Bulmer of Scalby and Betty Beswick of Brompton [by Sawdon] were married at Scalby on 7 July 1808.  Betty signed; Richard marked.  Witness: Dickinson Read (married Mary Bulmer at Scalby on 20 Oct 1803).
I am still trying to discover who our Richard's parents were.  He may have been the Richard Bulmer, born 17 November 1782, baptised 13 December 1782 at Scarborough to Mark and Sarah (nee Barehead).  I have not with any certainly located a death/burial record for Richard.  When their son Thomas arrived in Sydney in 1841 he indicated that both his parents were dead.
You may already have found all of this information.
Kind regards.