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Re: Did this family group leave the UK after 1891?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you yet again, for that Lottie.

I wondered why I could not find her.

It seems likely & seems to fit.

One problem solved, just the mystery left at the top of this thread!

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The main names that I am researching into at the moment are Cadman,(originating from Bulkington, Warwickshire), Smedley, (Leicestershire and Derbyshire), Paynes (Leicestershire, Yorkshire and Derbyshire) and Udall - you will also find several other names on my web page. I look forward to E-Mails from anyone who would like to share or talk about our family history.

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Re: Did this family group leave the UK after 1891?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 09:48 GMT (UK) »

Yes, still the mystery of Ann and her family.  I'm like a dog with a bone so will keep searching.

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Mason - Yorkshire
Manger -Tynemouth/Hull
Turner - Cottingham
Franklin - Cottingham
Lawrence - London
Bailey - Northumberland
Butler - Hampshire/Channel Isles
Harms - Hampshire/London/India/Northumberland
Timson - Ware, Hertfordshire
Wild & Nield - Lancashire
Row(e) - Buckinghamshire
Manders - Buckinghamshire
Wilkins - Herts
Lamberts - Herts
Crowe -Northern Ireland

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Re: Did this family group leave the UK after 1891?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 09:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Lottie - Andy
The main names that I am researching into at the moment are Cadman,(originating from Bulkington, Warwickshire), Smedley, (Leicestershire and Derbyshire), Paynes (Leicestershire, Yorkshire and Derbyshire) and Udall - you will also find several other names on my web page. I look forward to E-Mails from anyone who would like to share or talk about our family history.

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Re: Did this family group leave the UK after 1891?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 10:00 GMT (UK) »

Just noticed, in the 1891 census, Ann is Amy

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Mason - Yorkshire
Manger -Tynemouth/Hull
Turner - Cottingham
Franklin - Cottingham
Lawrence - London
Bailey - Northumberland
Butler - Hampshire/Channel Isles
Harms - Hampshire/London/India/Northumberland
Timson - Ware, Hertfordshire
Wild & Nield - Lancashire
Row(e) - Buckinghamshire
Manders - Buckinghamshire
Wilkins - Herts
Lamberts - Herts
Crowe -Northern Ireland


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Re: Did this family group leave the UK after 1891?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 11:09 GMT (UK) »
I think it was transcribed wrongly - if you look at the original document I think it looks more like Ann.

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The main names that I am researching into at the moment are Cadman,(originating from Bulkington, Warwickshire), Smedley, (Leicestershire and Derbyshire), Paynes (Leicestershire, Yorkshire and Derbyshire) and Udall - you will also find several other names on my web page. I look forward to E-Mails from anyone who would like to share or talk about our family history.

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Re: Did this family group leave the UK after 1891?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 18:46 GMT (UK) »

I think it looks more like a Y if you look a couple of lines up on the census return there is another Ann which is clearly ANN. Obviously it is Ann you are looking for but it does make you realise the reason why we cannot find them if info is transcribed or written incorrectly by the enumerator, doesn't it.
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Mason - Yorkshire
Manger -Tynemouth/Hull
Turner - Cottingham
Franklin - Cottingham
Lawrence - London
Bailey - Northumberland
Butler - Hampshire/Channel Isles
Harms - Hampshire/London/India/Northumberland
Timson - Ware, Hertfordshire
Wild & Nield - Lancashire
Row(e) - Buckinghamshire
Manders - Buckinghamshire
Wilkins - Herts
Lamberts - Herts
Crowe -Northern Ireland

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Re: Did this family group leave the UK after 1891?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 19:22 GMT (UK) »
Andy

I have found a Samuel Morris in 1911 living in High Street, Nuneaton born in Atherstone, Hatter Shaper trouble is wrong age, wrong wife.

In 1911 this Sam has been married 11 years, so Ann would have died between 1891 and 1900 also Samuel was born in 1870, not 60. Perhaps a new wife who was younger than him, perhaps was a little bit light on his age?
I cannot find a death for a Ann Morris that matches, perhaps they divorced.
Clutching at straws

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Mason - Yorkshire
Manger -Tynemouth/Hull
Turner - Cottingham
Franklin - Cottingham
Lawrence - London
Bailey - Northumberland
Butler - Hampshire/Channel Isles
Harms - Hampshire/London/India/Northumberland
Timson - Ware, Hertfordshire
Wild & Nield - Lancashire
Row(e) - Buckinghamshire
Manders - Buckinghamshire
Wilkins - Herts
Lamberts - Herts
Crowe -Northern Ireland

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Re: Did this family group leave the UK after 1891?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you again for looking Lottie,

The mystery is that all three mother, father & Child, all seem to have disappeared from all records.

This is what lead me to think that they may have all emigrated.

Perhaps one day something will turn up when we are looking at somethings else!?

Andy

The main names that I am researching into at the moment are Cadman,(originating from Bulkington, Warwickshire), Smedley, (Leicestershire and Derbyshire), Paynes (Leicestershire, Yorkshire and Derbyshire) and Udall - you will also find several other names on my web page. I look forward to E-Mails from anyone who would like to share or talk about our family history.

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Re: Did this family group leave the UK after 1891?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 24 January 12 12:07 GMT (UK) »
How can these three people just disappear from all records post 1891?
I have been unable to find any census, death, marriage or migration records after this date.
Guidance would be really appreciated. . . . . . or will this mystery never be solved?
The main names that I am researching into at the moment are Cadman,(originating from Bulkington, Warwickshire), Smedley, (Leicestershire and Derbyshire), Paynes (Leicestershire, Yorkshire and Derbyshire) and Udall - you will also find several other names on my web page. I look forward to E-Mails from anyone who would like to share or talk about our family history.