James Fowkes Burton on Trent Staffs

[cati]

I think that this is just some sort of addendum to the 'place of birth' column: there is a Donnington in Shropshire, so it may have been assumed that that was where he was born, rather than Castle Donnington.

I wouldn't worry about it.... blasted officials....

Cati

[MargP]

Hi

What was James Fowkes b 1833 occupation

Margp

[antonacb]

Hi Thanks for question. James was born between 1833 & 1835 in castle Donnington in 1861 Census he was a maltser in castle Donington and in 1871 Census he was a Brewers Labourer in Burton on Trent. James George Fowkes born 10 january 1874 states father dead on Birth Certificate no death for James 1833 anywhere.
Regards Anthony & Ann

[MargP]

Hi A and A

From the information given we are looking for a death record for James Fowkes b 1833 and died in 1873, I am wondering if he did die in that year. looking at the children, there seems to be a big age gap between Henry b 1866 and James b 1874 it may be worth widening your search from 1866 onwards

Margp

[MargP]

Hi

This is the only one I could find

James  Fowkes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1868
Age at Death: 39
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 121

Margp

[antonacb]

Thank you sooooooooo much will look it up, we had been wondering ourselves,but the 1871 Census states James was there,I wonder if this was John Towns as Ann could not read or write. She did not marry John Towns until 1880 but of course it could have been someone elses child.I believe 7 years was the time needed if someone disappeared?? and that could have been the case.
Thank You A&A OZ

[toni*]

Section 57 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861

Provided, that nothing in this section contained shall extend to any second marriage contracted elsewhere than in England and Ireland by any other than a subject of Her Majesty, or to any person marrying a second time whose husband or wife shall have been continually absent from such person for the space of seven years then last past, and shall not have been known by such person to be living within that time, or shall extend to any person who, at the time of such second marriage, shall have been divorced from the bond of the first marriage, or to any person whose former marriage shall have been declared void by the sentence of any court of competent jurisdiction.
http://195.99.1.70/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1861/cukpga_18610100_en_3#pb6-l1g51

[toni*]

a married womans husband is deemed to be the father of her child whether that be the case or not


have you looked under variants of Fowkes ?


to declare someone dead they have had to been 'missing' no contact with the outside world for a period of 7 years (UK law)
now i am not sure whether a death certificate would be issued if you wished to declare someone deceased for the actual death certificate acts as a licence for the undertaker to dispose of the body without this they cannot do so leagally but if there was no body to dispose of then would they need to issue a certifcate? these days the coroner dies issue a certifcate as it is also needed for monetary reasons insurances bank accounts etc. but back then did they have bank accounts or insurance ?

if Anne married John Towns in 1880 it does suggest that James was around in 1873 (7 years previous)

so you have James and Anne on the 1871 census what other documents are there that can help you located them from 1871-1874


have you looked at the actual PR's for Burton on Trent there does seem to be a big gap between Henry in 1866 & James in 1874 were there children born and died in between times?
was James working away ?
was one person ill ?
in prison ?

If HEnry went to school it would be helpful if you could locate his school records as this gives parents names and addresses as well as allowing you to gain an insight into school life and HEnrys childhood.

have you seen James 1874 christenening record there may be anote in the margin regarding his actual parentage  it depends on tehe Vicar though

just some thoughts

[mhearn]

Hi Anthony,

I was wondering if you ever got to resolve the mystery regarding James Fowkes?

He is also my 3 x Great Grandfather

Thank you.

Michelle