LITHABY/LETHABY & PAIN - Durleigh

[Rockford]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone here has a connection to a couple called:

Nicholas Lithaby or Lethaby and Amey Pain
Who according to a transcription of marriage registers at westcountrygenealogy.com, were married on eith the 4th or 24th June 1797 at Durleigh.  I suspect that they may be the parents of (or at least connected to!) my 4 x great grandfather, Thomas Letherby who was born in Durleigh in 1817.  The family later moved to Chilton Trinity, then Bridgwater.

If anyone does have a connection or has any information about Nicholas and Amey they are willing to share, please get in touch!

Best wishes

Rockford

[rebeccaclaire86]

Hi there,

Just stumbled across this - I have a couple of Nicholas Leatherbys who hailed from East Quantoxhead - just looked Durleigh up and it seems to be about 13 miles down the road.

Around 1746 I have a Nicholas Lithiby turning up in EQ, marrying Mary Hurley and having three children that I know of; Elizabeth (b. 1747), William (my line, b. 1749) & Betty (b. 1752).

William married Beatrice Ridler and had ten children, the oldest of whom was called Nicholas (b. 1774) - and for whom I've been totally unable to find a marriage or a burial in the parish registers...  Do you have any idea from burial records when 'your' Nicholas was born?

If you haven't already seen it, Martin Southwood's excellent site of parish register transcriptions has the registers for Durleigh and East Quantoxhead. Website is here: http://www.wsom.org.uk/Parreg.html - Nicholas and Amy's marriage is on it, although sadly no parish details given for either.  If a banns register survives, might be worth checking that as a long shot? 

Hope this helps

Becky

[Rockford]

Hi Becky,

Thanks for your message!

Sadly, I know very little about 'my' Nicholas Letherby.  His  name comes from the 1840 marriage certificate of his son, Thomas Letherby (b. c1816 Durleigh) to Sarah Anne Loyd (b. c.1821 in Bristol).  Nicholas obviously lived into statutory registration, but I haven't tried to track him through the census records yet - I've been reluctant to do so, not knowing the name of his wife, where he lived or if there were any children younger than Thomas.  He must have been born about 1770 - 1790 though, to fit with Thomas' birth.  At the 1840 marriage, Nicholas is listed as a labourer.

Thomas Letherby and Sarah Anne Loyd had at least ten children and I'll post them in case you recognise any of the names as being family names connected with your Lithibys/Leatherbys:

Joseph, born c1842 @ Chilton Trinity
William, born c1844 @ Chilton Trinity
Thomas, born c1847 @ Chilton Trinity, d1903 in Bridgwater [my line]
James Nickloss, born c1849 @ Chilton Trinity, d1910 in Bridgewater
Henry Walker, born c1851 @ Chilton Trinity
Sarah Ann, born c1853 @ Durleigh
Charles, born c1854 @ Durleigh
Walter Francis, born c1856 @ Durleigh, d1922
Beatrice Caroline born c1857 @ Somerset, d1940 Bridgewater (m. 1885, Robert Gunningham)

I suppose the next step is to try and find a possible census record for Nicholas in 1841 or 1851 - off to the library this weekend methinks!!

Best wishes

Rockford

[trish1120]

Hi Rockford and Becky,

I can find one Baptism for a Letherby with a Father Nicholas;
St Mary, Bridgwater, Somerset
BEATRICE Letherby, 28 April 1817
Parents NICHOLAS/AMEY
Abode Durleigh, Fathers Occp Labourer
Sadly she was Buried 14 Aug 1819, age 2 at Chilton.
(Source FreeREG)

Your Thomas names a Child Beatrice.

The William LETHERBE/Beatrice RIDLER Marriage was 05 Nov 1773, St Mary the Virgin, East Quantoxhead, Somerset.
May fit as Nicholas's Parents given the Christian names.

It is possible that Nicholas was born c 1774 was the Father of THOMAS born c 1816. He would only be 42 when he was born.

This is an interesting 1861 Census;

1861 Census
East Quantoxhead, Somerset
RG9/1604/
Beatrice LETHERBE, 73, Head, Unm, No Occp, born East Quantoxhead
Jane DATE, 82 or 89, Sister, Widow, born East Quantoxhead
Sarah LETHERBE, 62, Visitor, Widow, born Storgursey

SARAH may be nee WILCOX who married a JOHN Letherbee, 27 Jan 1821, Storgursey.

1851 Census we have Beatrice, an Annuitant, and Neice Beatrice born c 1822, Stowey, Somerset, Widowed Sister Jane Date age 74.
Under Bethrice Letheby born c 1787, East Quantoxhead.
HO107/1920/477/13

1841 Census
East Quantoxhead, Somerset
HO107/966/6/East Quantoxhead
Beatrice LOTHEBY, 89, Independant
Beatrice LOTHEBY, 54
JOHN LOTHEBY, 46, Carpenter
All born in County
Next door is;
Barnett JENKINS, 45, and Family. 2 Date girls are in the Household.

Looks like Beatrice Snr, Nee RIDLER lived to a good age

1841 Census William DATE, Ag Lab, Wife JANE and a Child I presume Thomas 1817, are in East Qauntoxhead. William c 1771 and Jane c 1775.
Living nearby to Baatrice.
William DATE Married Jane LETHEBEE, 10 April 1803, St Mary, East Quantoxhead (Source FreeREG)

I have looked for Nicholas in Census Records but think he may have died before 1841, and Amy also.

Trish

[trish1120]

Possible?
There is a Amy PAINE Baptised 14 April 1775, St Mary, Cannington, Somerset
Parents JOHN/ANNE
Siblings;
PATIENCE Pain, 19 March 1773
ISAAC Pain, 20 Feb 1778

[Rockford]

Hi Trish,

Thanks for the information - certainly a lot to mull over!  If William and Beatrice are Nicholas' parents, I'm sure that must make Becky and I at least 4th cousins!! 

It's interesting that the birth/death of wee Beatrice puts Nicholas and Amey in Durleigh at the time of her birth and Chilton at the date of her death, which a circumstantial link at least to Thomas.

Thanks for taking the time to pull this information together, it's appreciated.

Best wishes

Rockford

[rebeccaclaire86]

Just started dabbling in my Letheby/Lithiby family after a long break and 're-found' this thread

I don't know if you've already come across this (I know it's been a couple of years!) but there is a burial for Amy in Chilton Trinity in 1851 on FreeREG that gives a lot of detail, including her place of residence as Mark, cause of death as 'decay of nature' and describes her as the widow of Nicholas.

She also appears on the 1851 census living in Mark with her daughter Mary who is by then married to Henry Ham.  It gives her birthplace as Cannington which ties in with the baptism that Trish found. 

I cannot find her on the 1841 census (was hoping she might be with Nicholas - or living with another child) - have you managed to locate her on that at all?

Digging further back in time, Nicholas Lithiby Sr who appears in East Quantoxhead could quite possibly have been baptised in Lynton, Devon in 1718.  The name is so uncommon that it seems quite likely!

[Rockford]

Just started dabbling in my Letheby/Lithiby family after a long break and 're-found' this thread

Hi,

I haven't really looked at any family history for ages - unfortunately 'real life' keeps getting in the way!

I appreciate you coming back to highlight the extra information you have found, it's another piece of the jigsaw!

Best wishes

Rockford

[pigmyhippo]

Hi all,

Just found your post and wanted to get in touch. In my tree is William LITHIBY
 born 1749 and married Beatrice Ridler, there eldest son Nicholas born 1774 East Quantoxhead and I have found his death 3 Jun 1781 East quantoxhead. Nicholas is my 5x Great Uncle.