The Pawnbrokers Arms ,Landport,Portsmouth ?

[torbaynz]

I have been trying to find out ANYTHING about this pub for sometime.
I have an old clay bottle with the name stamped into it,which read,s   SHOGG,Pawnbrokers Arms,Marylebone St,Landport.
Can anyone tell me anything about it ? As stated above,I cannot even find any record of the pub
thanks for any help you may be able to give
William

[harrywrag]

this may be helpfull from newspaper report 1851                  bankruptcy of messers hogg -  in the london court of bankruptcy on tuesday before mr commissioner gouldburn this was  the dividend meeting under the bankruptcy of samuel hogg & henry james hogg of the lanport theatre, new inn, pawnbrokers arms, &c auctioneers and wine & spirit merchants

                                                                   harrywrag

[John915]

Good evening,

This is the best site for Portsmouth pubs but I don't see your's on there; http://portsmouthpubs.org.uk/index.html

John915

I don't find that street either; http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=464500&y=101500&z=120&sv=landport&st=3&tl=Map+of+Landport,+City+of++Portsmouth+[City/Town/Village]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf

[Little Nell]

Marylebone Street is no longer there - it ran south from Greetham Street (which ran parallel to the railway line) - south of the goods yard.  As far as I can make out, it was in the vicinity of where the law courts are now.  The Mary Rose Street seems to be the only part of it left.

Nell

[John915]

Good evening,

I think Greetham st is in Somers Town not Landport. And there's no Mary Rose st in portsmouth, do you mean Alec Rose Lane which runs through to the theatre royal from the area south of greetham st.

John915

[keyboard86]

Hi Marylebone Street, Portsea, keeps disappearing when doing an address search, but I did locate one where to it's left were Cutlers Row and Belgrave Street, I think there was also a Hyde Park Street or similar?!

Keyboard86

Edit this was the 1861 Census Cutlers Row has in brackets Pall Mall.

Or is Portsea another area entirely?

[torbaynz]

this may be helpfull from newspaper report 1851                  bankruptcy of messers hogg -  in the london court of bankruptcy on tuesday before mr commissioner gouldburn this was  the dividend meeting under the bankruptcy of samuel hogg & henry james hogg of the lanport theatre, new inn, pawnbrokers arms, &c auctioneers and wine & spirit merchants

                                                                   harrywrag

I have a PM from harrywrag seem,s I am unable to PM back as I am a new member,so harrywrag,the answer is yes please.

I have always thought it was SHOGG on the bottle,but after reading the post from harrywrag above,there may well be a slight gap between the S and H.

Thanks everyone for info to date,look forward to any other adice that may follow.

[torbaynz]

Marylebone Street is no longer there - it ran south from Greetham Street (which ran parallel to the railway line) - south of the goods yard.  As far as I can make out, it was in the vicinity of where the law courts are now.  The Mary Rose Street seems to be the only part of it left.

Nell

The site the bottle was found was on the south side of the railway line in an old  well also lot,s of old house bones and other thing,s.

[torbaynz]

Good evening,

This is the best site for Portsmouth pubs but I don't see your's on there; http://portsmouthpubs.org.uk/index.html

John915

I don't find that street either; http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=464500&y=101500&z=120&sv=landport&st=3&tl=Map+of+Landport,+City+of++Portsmouth+[City/Town/Village]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf

Thank,s John,I have e-mailed the webmaster now at www.portsmouthpubs ,will report back if I hear from them.