Margaret Todd - New Galloway - Castle Douglas COMPLETED

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Ambly

You're going to love this - have a look:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNQK-X1B

Good old new familysearch


 


gnu

(I think she might have been economical with her age)

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Also, I've just found a Baptism for a  David Shaw Todd in Kells on  18 Dec 1825.
Parents - William Todd and Jean Hume


gnu

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And this ~

Kells, 29 Aug 1818 William Todd, saddler in New Galloway and his wife ~~~~ Hume , had a child baptised by Mr Gillespie, named William

It's indexed on SP as Tode but the record is written as Todd


 (Mr Gillespie baptised my 2 x grandmother !)

 


gnu


Added - Link to Kirkcudbrightshire parish map:

http://www.scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-wigtown.htm

[AMBLY]

We do love it,  Gnu    Good on the new family search & you !

So, do you think the 1851 Census in Kelton could be Jeanette's Margaret' and her brother William with his age a wee bit out at 29? (Or maybe there were two William's and the 1818 died young).

Cheers
AMBLY

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Hi Ambly

Just a few more observations:

From your reply #8

David Shaw TODD...............Children's records (Census)  indicate they shifted to Rainford, Prescot Lancashire between 1853 and 1855.

Is it just a coincidence that a Margaret Todd marries Thomas Yates in Prescot in 1869 or had the family all moved  to that area of Lancashire?  There were regular boats from Kirkcudbright to Liverpool/Birkenhead at that time* (my family used them) and, as far as I recall, many KKD families can be found in that area. *and trains later in the period.

The family seem to underestimate their ages -
William -b. 1818 but on 1851 census, he's 29
David -b 1825 - on 1851 census, he's 24
Margaret - b 1829 - on 51 and 71 census, she's 20 and 38

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Re the Helen (Hume) Drylie, m.s. Todd - a few more disproofs! 
There is no mention of Hume in her name on any of the documents that I've seen and it only appears in the tree that you found. .  Also, her father is down as a Damask weaver on her death cert. The William Todd,  New Galloway, Kells,  was recorded as a saddler on a number of documents. Further, she doesn't give her birth place as Kirkcudbrightshire on any available document. 
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A final proof that we've got the correct family, and that Jeanette's Margaret is the daughter of William Todd, saddler,  and Jean Hume of New Galloway, would be if Jeanette could obtain one or other of Margaret's marriage certs to find out what occupation is given for her father.



gnu

[scottish quine]

Hello Ambley and Gnu.   I can't thank you enough for going to so much trouble on my behalf.   I feel sure you have both tracked down the correct person, just to be certain I will get a marriage certificate.   To answer your question Ambley, I believe Margaret's maiden name was Todd because, on Staffordshire BMD there is a double entry for her marriage to Hilditch, giving both Yates and Todd as her surname.   At the end of the page there is an explanation which says this often means a woman has been marrid before.
       Regarding Samuel and Frederick Hilditch on 1881 census, Samueal was Hannah's youngest, born around 1868. She died early 1871.   I don't know who Frederick belongs to, Margaret and Joseph didn't marry until 1879, I wonder is he was Margaret's and Hilditch took him as his own?
       On Ancestry there is a tree assigned to Hilditch which shows Margaret Todd's father as William which fits with what has been found, there's no other information though.   Like you I find so many mistakes in other people's trees.   I've had to back track several times, it's a mine field out there.
         You noticed Ambley the Yates connection with both Hilditch's wives.   I am try to establish if there is a connection with Margaret's first husband and my Yates family.   It can't be through my great grandfather Henry as he had only sisters but I think his father had brothers.   Would this be a good place to start?
     My Yates' also have a connection with Lancashire in that other members of the family moved to Golborne from Staffordshire.   Thanks again for all help.     Jeanette





       

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Hi Jeanette

My link to Margaret's marriage to Thomas Yates shows his father as Joseph Yates. Does that link in to the other Yates family?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNQK-X1B

gnu

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Also - a photo of King Street, Castle Douglas where William and Margaret were staying in 1851

gnu

[scottish quine]

Hello Gnu.   I have found a Joseph Yates born Astbury Cheshire (where my Yates' come from) dob 1803 parents James and Elizabeth.   My distant cousin researching with me asked another Rootschat question about James and Elizabeth and it appears they didn't marry until 1807, so he isn't theirs.   Haven't found another likely parent yet.  I will just have to keep digging.   Just out of interest, my grandmother had a brother Angus Yates dob 1878.   How he came by his truly Scottish name on the border of Staffordshire and Cheshire puzzled me - until I saw Margarets birthplace.   I suspect she had something to do with it.   Thanks again for all your help.    Jeanette