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Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« on: Saturday 04 February 12 10:25 GMT (UK) »
   Amy Phillips was the proprietress of the Hand Hotel Llangollen. One of her family William, married Mary Ann Haustead.

In the 1851 census Mary Ann and William, who was listed as Post master, had two children ,Amy and Alice.
By 1861 Amy age 12 .Alice 11 , Frank W. 9 and Ada Phillips 7 were living in a lodging house with two spinster sisters. I can find nothing more on their parents Mary Ann and William. The children in future census were listed as living on own means.
Would love to learn more about this family and what happened to their parents.

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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 February 12 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.The marriage on North Wales BMD states that it was a William Robert Phillips that married Mary Ann Haustead in 1845.There is a death of a William Robert Phillips in the Corwen District in 1855.Llangollen BMD events were recorded in the Corwen District.

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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 February 12 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome from me, too  :)

I see on the 1851 that William was born Llangollen circa 1823. I have the parish records for here and will try to find a baptism for him later today. This should give the name of his parents.

Mary Ann is down as being born London at about the same time.  There are some possibles on the  familysearch site:

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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 February 12 11:06 GMT (UK) »
Morning gnu!I was thinking of asking whether perhaps PP has an exact birthplace for Mary Anne?

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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 February 12 11:27 GMT (UK) »
The Wrexham Advertiser,December 02, 1882;
Death notice.
WINSTANLEY. Nov 29th aged 65 at 52 New St Mold, Mary relict of the late Mr Robert Winstaley of Liverpool and the last surviving daughter of the late Mrs A Phillips, Hand Hotel, Llangollen .

Mary was born c 1817 Llangollen

ADDITION

Robert and  Mary Winstanley

In 1841 Mary is at Bache Isa , Llangollen with her three  children,  there is an elder son Robert aged 5 years, Her husband Robert is not there. She is described as Ind.

There is a Robert Winstanley 35 a labourer on his own in Wigan that could be him

In 1851 they are at Covent Garden, St Pauls, Middlesex , where Robert is an agent to a picture dealer.
The son Robert died in 1843, death registered Corwen.
Robert 47 b Liverpool
Mary 34 b Llangollen
Phillip 14 b Llangollen
Turner 12 b Barton upon Medlock, Manchester

1861 they are living in Liverpool where he is an auctioneer .

Probate. 10 th April. 1865.
Robert Winstanley  died on 10th Feb 1865,  at Vine St, Liverpool, Auctioneer,
probate proved by oath of Mary Winstanley of Rhyl, widow and sole exectrutix.

In 1871 Mary is a lodger in Rhyl, she is an Auctioneers widow.

1881 she is a visitor at 12 Rhos Street, Llanrhydd , and is an  annuitant.


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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 February 12 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Morning WR.

I've been mountaineering again to find my records (sorting out my collections is a bit daunting!)

Anyway, here's the baptism - seems hotelling was a family business:

Llangollen 19 July 1822 William Robert Phillips s/o Joseph Phillips, innkeeper,  and Amy.

So, the inn was Joseph's to start with.

Will check back later  if I find more on this couple.


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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 February 12 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Another snippet from the parish records:

Burial, Llangollen 27 April 1838 Joseph Phillips, Hand Hotel, aged 63.



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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 February 12 12:22 GMT (UK) »
I see that some of the baptisms of Joseph and Amy's children are now online.

These from the Llangollen parish records:

7 Sept 1813 Jane Phillips d/o Joseph (innkeepr) and Emey
23 Jan 1818 Suzanne Philips d/o Joseph  (innkeeper) and Emmy
18 July 1819 Joseph Peploe Phillips  s/o Joseph (innkeeper) and Amy
27 May 1821 Amey Phillips d/o Joseph(innkeeper) and Amy



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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 February 12 12:30 GMT (UK) »
On 1851, HO1207/2509/492/4 Amy is down as aged 60 and born Birmingham. 
Think that might be where we find them.

A sister, Jane Richards, unmarried is with her. So Amy Richards m Joseph Phillips

Also, daughter Amy, married a solicitor named Smith - will look up later if you don't have.


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