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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 05 February 12 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Was this your ggg grandmother in 1841 (It fits the names in Edward's will)

Clsytyblaidd
HO107/1402/1/18/6

Mary Jones, 45, farmer
Jane, 20
Mary, 15
Sarah, 15
John, 12
David, ?
(none born county)
and 5 farm servants



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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 05 February 12 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Sadly, by 1851, your Jones family have moved from Clystyblaidd (HO107/2509/19/7) and a Thomas Jones is head. Do you know where they went?


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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 05 February 12 11:19 GMT (UK) »
I've just read a bit more of John Roberts' will. It's difficult in that little window that the NLW provides but it is for free!

John Roberts had a sister, Mary, who was married to a John Jones. She was left £30.
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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 05 February 12 12:24 GMT (UK) »
I see that Elizabeth Emma Haustead is living with an Ann Evans in the 1841. Ann is down as Independant† and neither are born county. They're next door or in the same house (not household) † to your Mary Roberts and Mary Ann.  I'm sure I saw an Ann Evans mentioned in Mary Roberts' will.

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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 05 February 12 12:31 GMT (UK) »
1851
London Road, Llangollen
HO107/2509/503/26

Ann Evans, unm, 50, lodging house (?keeper), b. Merionethshire
Elizabeth Emma Haustead, niece, b. London

-...my niece Ann Evans................... in her will

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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 05 February 12 13:46 GMT (UK) »
I've attempted to list the benefactors of Mary Roberts' will:

John Jones and Ebenezer Cooper- executors and residual legatees?

My niece Ann Evans

My niece Sarah, wife of Thomas Jones, Tir a Llannerch, Corwen. Her son, John Jones

Mary, my niece, wife of Edward Jones of Clyst y blaidd

Mary Anne Haustead, daughter of my late niece Elizabeth Maxwell
Elizabeth Emma Haustead, her sister

Child or children of the body of David Evans of Llangollen, my nephew - not clear if David Evans is the son of Ann or her brother. He is left 5 shillings weekly, paid monthly,† from the estates† left to Ann Evvans and Mary Ann Haustead.

Also mentioned - four youngest children of my nephew David Evans.



I think the Evans link is worth further investigation - it might well be the key link!


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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 05 February 12 13:50 GMT (UK) »
Most likely David Evans in 1841 - he does have 4 children listed as well and is a butcher!

Salop Road, Llangollen
HO107/1400/13/8/10


David Evans, 45,† butcher, not b. county
Mary, 45, b -do-
John, 21, ? shoe(make)r, b. county
Anne, 14, b. -do-
David, 11, b. -do-
Henry, 9, b. -do-

Maybe this David Evans took over John Roberts' trade  - possible anyway  :-\


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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 05 February 12 13:55 GMT (UK) »
In 1851

London Road, Llangollen
HO107/2509/502/24

David Evans, 55, Butcher
Mary, wife, 54, b. Oswestry
John s, unm, 30, shoemaker
Thomas, s, 28, unm, Tailor
David, s,21,† unm, Weaver
Henry, s, 19, unm, Painter
Mary, d, 25, unm, Dressmaker
Ann, da, 12, scholar
Elizabeth, d, 4, scholar
All but Mary, b. Llangollen

They seem to cover most of the main trades!



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Re: Phillips of Hand Hotel,Llangollen
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 05 February 12 14:45 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Jones, niece and† wife of Thomas Jones

1851


Tirllannerch,Corwen
HO107/2509/242/9

Thomas Jones, 55, Farmer
Sarah, w, 53, farmer's wife
John, son, 27, Attorney
All b. Corwen
plus 6 servants

(Still there in 1861 - RG9/4311/44/4 )

There is an interesting baptism in Corwen:

21 Oct 1798 Sarah Evans d/o Henry (deceased) and Anne of Pen y Coed

This led me to:

31 March 1796 Anne Evans d/o Henry and Anne of Pen y Coed.

Interesting!



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