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Frederick George Cole
« on: Friday 17 February 12 09:18 GMT (UK) »
We are looking for Frederick George Cole- we know when he died and how in 1902. We know he was married to Fanny Peapell in 1887 and that they lived in Blunsden Wilts. We know Fred joined the  militia in 1881 and was working for J Russell in 1881. However his marriage certificate and militia papers say that he was born in Dauntsey wiltshire in 1860 and his father was George Cole. We can find no evidence of his birth in Dauntsey nor can we find him in the 1861 or 1871 census. If anyone can shed some light on this we would be exceptionally grateful-

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Re: Frederick George Cole
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 February 12 09:29 GMT (UK) »
We know Fred joined the  militia in 1881 and was working for J Russell in 1881.

Is this not Fred in 1881?
Reference RG11, Piece 2015, Folio 4, Page 1
Road, Rodbourne Cheney

Peaple, George  Head  M  34  Farm Labourer  b Rodbourne Cheney
Peaple, Unis  Wife  F  34  Farm Labourer  b Lyneham
Peaple, Henry  Son  M  5  Scholar  b Rodbourne Cheney
Deacon, William  Lodger  M  26  Labourer for Boiler Smith  b Rodbourne Cheney
Keen, Maurice  Lodger  M  44  b Rodbourne Cheney
Cole, Fred  Lodger  M  21  Farm Labourer  b Dauntsey
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Frederick George Cole
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 February 12 09:35 GMT (UK) »
Yes we know about the 1881 census and we also found Joseph Russell who he worked for- but he is not in the 1871 census and having trawled through the Dauntsey records we cannot confirm his birth at all

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Re: Frederick George Cole
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 February 12 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Welcome to Rootschat :D

I'm wondering if he changed his name

There is a Frederick George Skull born Dauntsey 1860 father Barnabus mother Harriet in 1861
RG9/1277.61 Pg3

Frederick Scull born Dauntsey 1860  with siblings  father George mother Harriet
RG10/1258/102 Pg16

Widowed George and children matching those in 71 but no Frederick is Cull in 1881 RG11/2018/46 Pg24


I think I'd change my name if it was Skull ;D

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge


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Re: Frederick George Cole
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 February 12 10:12 GMT (UK) »
Yes so would I! However I believe this Fred Skull can be traced forward and marries a different lady...you can see why this gent is causing me a mega headache!

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Re: Frederick George Cole
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 February 12 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Hmm ??? I can't see him in 81/91 but yes he does seem to reappear as Scull in 1901 born Dauntsey 1863 married to a Laura Emily, is this what you found? Or can you see this Frederick in 81/91? Puzzling

Jan ;)

OK can see him indexed as Shull still born 1863 in 1891. Still can't see him in 1881. Ooh but I have found him in 1871 still born 1863 father Abraham mother Susanna again indexed as Shull ;D

Field now wide open for Frederick George Skull born Dauntsey 1860 to be yours :D

Yes definitely two of them
Frederick Skull Oct-Nov-Dec 1862    Malmesbury    Wiltshire

Frederick George Skull Oct-Nov-Dec 1860    Malmesbury    Wiltshire
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Frederick George Cole
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 February 12 10:43 GMT (UK) »
You appear to have his marriage certificate, yet you do not say what his father's occupation was, that should help locate him in the earlier census.

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Frederick George Cole
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 February 12 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Nothing exceptional for the area or the times  George Cole was a farm labourer!!

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Re: Frederick George Cole
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 February 12 10:49 GMT (UK) »
 Hi Anpet and welcome to Roots

On the marriage certificate for Frederick, who are the witnesses and does it give his fathers occupation, and if he is deceased, also I would widen my search area for Frederick, on numerous occasions in my tree, I have come across this, when the children leave home they usually give there place of birth as where they lived, but are actually born somewhere else.

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