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Bridport marriage - George Harvey
« on: Monday 20 February 12 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Evening all,

We are looking for the maiden name of Elizabeth who married George Harvey in or around Bridport. They were both born in 1829, George in Bridport and Elizabeth in Bradpole.

We think that the record below may be correct for George but strangely he is the only name on the record.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1851
Harvey George         Bridport   8   86

They had my wife’s GGD in 1862 so presumably where married before then.

Any help greatly appreciated.

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Re: Bridport marriage - George Harvey
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 February 12 22:55 GMT (UK) »
The 1851 marriage was to Mary Ann Newman so not your George - unless he married twice

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EDIT - found the above couple in 1861 with children so no connection
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Re: Bridport marriage - George Harvey
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 February 12 22:57 GMT (UK) »
1861 census shows eldest child Frederick aged 6 so marriage 1853-1855

If nothing found - you may have to buy a copy of one of their childrens birth certs to get her maiden name
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Re: Bridport marriage - George Harvey
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 February 12 23:02 GMT (UK) »
Births March qtr 1855   
Frederick George Harvey   Bridport  5a 388

Births March qtr 1857   
James Harvey    Bridport  5a 408

Births December qtr 1859   
Thomas Henry Harvey    Bridport  5a 407
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Re: Bridport marriage - George Harvey
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for looking Carole.

It's a bit of mystery why we can't find a record.

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Re: Bridport marriage - George Harvey
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 00:39 GMT (UK) »
There are a lot of entries on freebmd with an uneven number of male-female names on the same page

If you know the name of the spouse - you can cross check on the full GRO index for the missing entry

(eg) you know that Joe Bloggs married Jane Smith but cannot find both names on the same page of an entry on freebmd

You find a Joe Bloggs - make a note of the year/qtr/district and reference

Check the GRO index for a Jane Smith in the same qtr and year with the same reference

In this case - it's possible that Elizabeth is shown on freebmd and George is missing.  However - because we don't know her maiden name - we can't do a cross match
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Re: Bridport marriage - George Harvey
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 19:11 GMT (UK) »
There would appear to be five more children by the time he shows up in North Allington (effectively a suburb of Bridport) in 1871 and 1881.

Can't see his baptism or marriage. Were he and Elizabeth maybe of non-Anglican stock and tucked away in the records of the Unitarian / Independent / Methodist / Congregational chapels?

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Re: Bridport marriage - George Harvey
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Were he and Elizabeth maybe of non-Anglican stock and tucked away in the records of the Unitarian / Independent / Methodist / Congregational chapels?

Looking at the Harvey baptisms they and some of the rest of the family were Unitarians.

One of your problems is that there are two George Harveys in 1861 of the same age and born in Bridport, but only one (the son of Charles and Emma, so not yours as the other one is living with Emma in 1861) apparently in earlier censuses (and even then he was indexed as Hervey and Harney).

It may be that your George was born illegitimate but his mother then married a Harvey, so he changed his name. I did find two possible baptisms (George Lockyer and (William) George Hounsell, but the former became a sailor rather than shoemaker and the latter, although marrying an Elizabeth (Jane), was still calling himself Hounsell when he married in 1853 in Yetminster. I haven't treid to find them in later censuses.

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Re: Bridport marriage - George Harvey
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 February 12 16:20 GMT (UK) »
Just to catch up...

The 1851 marriage entry for George HARVEY was mis-indexed - it's recorded as 8/86 but should actually have been 8/66, where Mary Anne NEWMAN also resides as an odd-person-out. So we have no marriage entry at all yet for his namesake who lived with Elizabeth and was the father of William, b.1862. We can speculate that if they married it was most likely to be just prior to their eldest child Frederick's birth in 1855.

I personally haven't found the 1861 census record for the family - where were you looking, CaroleW? I haven't spotted him in 1841-51 either.

They were all living in North Allington 1871-81. They had links with the Unitarians, implying that their 'events' may not appear in parish registers.