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Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter..........
« on: Thursday 23 February 12 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Alfred was born 1889 Bramley Yorkshire England.  I do not know when but pre WW1 he emigrated to Canada.

Would love to know what happened to him. All I know is he fought in the first world war and dies before 1990.


Any help would be appreciated.

helina

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Re: Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter..........
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 February 12 14:45 GMT (UK) »
Arrival 4 Jun 1911 on the Megantic.  His destination was Vancouver, single, occupation plumber.

https://www.familysearch.org/
Search this site for his marriage in 1912 to Frances Hutcheson, his death in 1970 and hers in 1959

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Re: Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter..........
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 February 12 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Debbie

helina
Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Re: Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter..........
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 February 12 19:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

In case you don't have his WW1 Attestation paper - here is the link.  You can view the front and back of the form from here - you can also order the full military file, if you wish.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0kfb/

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Re: Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter..........
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 February 12 08:18 GMT (UK) »
Here is the death of Alfred and Frances' 2 year old son John:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLKS-9ZP

There is an Alfred Vye Parminter who was born in 1916 and died in 1990 who was a professor at the University of British Columbia. He donated some family documents to the university in 1985. Here is a link to a document which indicates what the Alfred Perminter fonds contains (there's also a picture of him). If he was a son of Alfred and Frances, you may want to try contacting the University of British Columbia Archives to see if they can provide copies.

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United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter..........
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 November 18 01:14 GMT (UK) »
Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter

Was born January 29, 1889 in Leeds, Yorkshire (our family tree says 1889, his enlistment papers of 1917 have 1887 as the year of birth).  His father was John Vye Parminter, a school Headmaster (1884-1911) and mother was Maria Bateson (died 1951).  Alfred died on April 23, 1970 in New Westminster, B.C.
He worked at the Farnley Iron Co., Limited in Yorkshire beginning in April 1902.  His first pay stub indicates a wage of 2/1 (two shillings and one pence?) for a week.   https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Farnley_Iron_Co
I am not sure when and where Alfred met his wife Frances (nee Hutchinson, born January 1, 1881 in Northumberland, died March 31, 1959 in Vancouver).
She was head of housekeeping in a manor house in England, which was usually a position held by a man (Head Butler? - not sure of the correct terminology).
Family stories say that Alfred and Frances made their way to the west coast of Canada and lived in a tent beside a river until they got established.  One of Alfredís first jobs was on a construction crew building a steel railway bridge over a river east of Vancouver.
He and Frances then lived in Victoria, B.C. for a few years and he worked at the Victoria Machinery Depot, shipbuilders.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Machinery_Depot  They moved back to the Vancouver area and he worked in a sawmill at Fraser Mills, east of Vancouver, for the rest of his working life (1914 or 1915 to about 1955).  He was a pipe fitter and worked in the power plant which burned wood waste to produce electricity for the sawmill machinery and steam heat for various purposes.
The sawmill began operations in 1891, closed in 1892, restarted in 1903 and was owned by the Canadian Western Lumber Company from 1910 until 1953.  They had extensive forest lands on Vancouver Island and two logging companies there cut the trees and sent them to Fraser Mills for processing into lumber, shingles, plywood and doors.  The sawmill was considered to be the largest in the British Empire for several decades, employing 1200 men.  There was a company town (called Millside until 1907 then renamed Fraser Mills) with housing for single and married workers and a company store.
Alfred enlisted in the Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force at Vancouver, B.C. on January 16, 1917.  He served in France and was gassed in action somewhere on the western front.  After that he was given a medical discharge.  His breathing was affected for the rest of his life and being a heavy smoker didnít help matters.
He lived and worked at Fraser Mills, B.C. at the time he enlisted.  The three children Ė John Anthony (died young), Margaret Vye (1915 - March 5, 2005) and Alfred Vye (November 2, 1916 - September 20, 1990) lived at Fraser Mills for a few years and then the family had their own house in New Westminster.
In his retirement Alfred and Frances lived in one of the company houses once more.  After a few years it was moved several miles away as it was in the way of a new road. That might have been in the late 1940s or early 1950s, by which time their children had left home.
I remember visiting them in that house when I was young and before Frances died in 1959.  After that, Alfred lived alternately with his daughter Margaret in Guelph, Ontario and son Alfred in Vancouver, then in a seniorís residence in New Westminster until his death in 1970.
Alfredís son was a school teacher, later a university professor, and his first posting was as Principal (Headmaster) of Millside Elementary School (built in 1907), which he himself had attended years before.
Follows a photo of Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter taken in Yorkshire before he emigrated to Canada.

John Vye Parminter, grandson
Victoria, B.C.

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Re: Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter..........
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 November 18 03:53 GMT (UK) »
His birth was registered 1889:

PARMINTER, ALFRED  BATESON VYE mmn BATESON
GRO Reference: 1889  M Quarter in BRAMLEY  Volume 09B  Page 378

Siblings:

PARMINTER, JOHN  BATESON VYE  mmn BATESON 
GRO Reference: 1882  J Quarter in BRAMLEY  Volume 09B  Page 376

PARMINTER, EDWARD  BATESON VYE mmn BATESON 
GRO Reference: 1883  D Quarter in BRAMLEY  Volume 09B  Page 340

PARMINTER, ELLEN  BATESON VYE mmn BATESON     
GRO Reference: 1885  S Quarter in BRAMLEY  Volume 09B  Page 373

PARMINTER, MARGARET  EMILY VYE mmn BATESON 
GRO Reference: 1886  S Quarter in BRAMLEY  Volume 09B  Page 389

PARMINTER, LEONARD  BATESON VYE mmn BATESON 
GRO Reference: 1891  D Quarter in BRAMLEY  Volume 09B  Page 347

Parents:

Jun 1881 Bramley 9b 409
PARMINTER John Vye
BATESON Maria

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Re: Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter..........
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 November 18 05:45 GMT (UK) »
Two additional siblings:

Agnes Mary Vye Parminter  1900 - 1985

Katherine Angela Vye Parminter  1901 - 1989


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Re: Alfred Bateson Vye Parminter..........
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 November 18 07:27 GMT (UK) »
Two additional siblings:

Agnes Mary Vye Parminter  1900 - 1985

Katherine Angela Vye Parminter  1901 - 1989


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And another: He appears to be the son of Sidney Augustus V Parminter and Louisa Bowman who married 1897. Sydney (on GRO ) mmn TROTT.

PARMINTER, EDWARD  DYE mmn BOWMAN
GRO Reference: 1898  M Quarter in SCARBOROUGH  Volume 09D  Page 402

His death, but He isnít with family on census in 1911:

Dec 1969 Ealing 5b 29
PARMINTER Edward Vye 28 Feb 1898

I see John Bateson had a child born the same year as his mother.  ;D

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