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Robert Smith & Jane Anderson
« on: Wednesday 07 March 12 08:26 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for any further information on my GGGrandparents Robert Smith b 1802 & Jane Anderson b 1806 married 15 Nov 1827 Forfar. I believe they had four children:
My GGrandfather James b 1828
Isobel b 1830
Mary b 1832
Alexander b 1835
Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar

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Re: Robert Smith & Jane Anderson
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 11:39 BST (UK) »
Am still searching for the parents plus birth and death details  of Jean/Jane Anderson. Ancestry.co.uk has b1806, d 1837 both at Forfar but as so often no original source given.
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Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar

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Re: Robert Smith & Jane Anderson
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 11:46 BST (UK) »
What is the last census you have either of them on?

If they died pre-1855 their death entries will not have their parents names.  Given that both surnames are very common, you may have problems

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Re: Robert Smith & Jane Anderson
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 11:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole,
The 1851 Forfar, South Well Brae has Robert Smith with his second wife Rebecca plus their children Margaret 13,May 7and Eliza 4.
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Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar

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Re: Robert Smith & Jane Anderson
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 12:02 BST (UK) »
Robert Smith died Forfar 27 Aug 1874 at 33 Dundee Loan, married 1st Jane Anderson, 2nd Rebecca Watt
Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar

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Re: Robert Smith & Jane Anderson
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 12:04 BST (UK) »
When did he marry Rebecca?  Looking at the age of their eldest child suggests Jane did die in 1837 or thereabouts

Have you looked for a death for her on SP?
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Re: Robert Smith & Jane Anderson
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 12:06 BST (UK) »
Am still searching for the parents plus birth and death details  of Jean/Jane Anderson. Ancestry.co.uk has b1806, d 1837 both at Forfar but as so often no original source given.
The chances are that Ancestry has (mis)calculated her DoB by assuming that she was aged 21 when she married, and 1837 is probably based on the assumed date of Robert's remarriage.

She was (obviously) alive in 1835 and dead by 1838.

Do the baptism records of Jane/Jean's children name any witnesses?

I think I recall seeing, decades ago, a record of burials in Forfar parish kirkyard that was kept in the burgh offices in Forfar, and I think there was a transcription of it in Forfar Library. Why not try asking Angus Archives https://www.angus.gov.uk/angus_archives ?
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: Robert Smith & Jane Anderson
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 12:14 BST (UK) »
I see the 1841 Forfar Well Brae has Robert, Rebecca, Margaret and a Jean aged 1
Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar

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Re: Robert Smith & Jane Anderson
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 12:36 BST (UK) »
I see the 1841 Forfar Well Brae has Robert, Rebecca, Margaret and a Jean aged 1
You need to look closely at the original of that census. Both FreeCEN and FindMyPast transcribe a long list that looks like several households, and Robert's age is transcribed as 3. So there is obviously an error somewhere.

Where was your James b 1828 in 1841? And, for that matter, Isobel, Mary and Alexander?
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith