LEVETT: Harry abt 1874 Cambridge

[Westietess]

I think I may have worked this out.
If Harry John Levett, son of Clementina is my Harry.  The father could have been John Thomson Nibloe - the Railway Station Master.
He was married to another of Clementina's sisters - Lucinda Angior Levett. b.1832 Marr 1851 D. 1859 (Lucinda dies at the same time as a Charles Miller Nibloe b.1857).
In 1861 Census - Climintina B Levett (Sister In Law) is at the same address as John Thomson Nibloe, and his 3 sons.  The last son being Frank Levett Nibloe B 1960.  She is listed as Housekeeper.
So if Lucinda died in 1859 -  is Clementina also the mother of Frank Levett Nibloe b 1860?
John Thomson Nibloe then gets remarried in 1867 to a Jemima Martha Morris.  They only ever have one child Kathleen Nibloe in 1869.  The same year that Charley E Levett is born.  It is possible that now he is married, he doesn't give his surname to the next two boys Charley and Harry.
On the 1871 Census there is a transcription error and the surname has been transcribed as Hebloe, but in 1881 it is correct as Nibloe.

Sounds like John Thomson Nibloe may have had a relationship with Clementina - also could be why Harry has John as his middle name.

[rosie99]

I think I may have worked this out.
If Harry John Levett, son of Clementina is my Harry.  The father could have been John Thomson Nibloe - the Railway Station Master.

Unless there is something in writing to substantiate this you could never prove it and it hardly seems fair to 'blacken his name' without proof, after all it could have been anyone 

[Westietess]

Sounds logical in theory.

I can not find any Birth or Baptism records for Frank Levett Nibloe -  so I guess I will never know if it was Clementina who was his mother. 

[rosie99]

Lucinda died Dec qtr 1859.  Her death certificate could help, the cause of death could be related to childbirth.

Charles Miller Nibloe was born March qtr 1857 and we assume as there is no middle name on the death registration that it is him that died the same qtr as Lucinda.

Frank L Nibloe's age in 1861 is 1.  He could have been born December qtr 1859 or even earlier that year - If he was born for instance on 1st October 1859 he would have been 1 on 1/10/1860 but would not be 2 until after the 61 census. He could be Lucindas child. 

Rosie

[Westietess]

I was wrong - again!

Just found someone on ancestry.com who has detailed info on Lucinda and Frank.

It seems Frank was born on 17 Dec 1859, Charles Miller died on 20 Dec 1859 (age 2)  and then Lucinda died on 29th Dec 1859.  So sad
Apparently, Frank Levett Nibloe was baptised at St Mary Stoke church, Ipswich but I can't find records on FindMyPast.

Clementina must have moved in to look after young Frank and the other two boys. 

So I am still stumped about Harry  ....

[rosie99]

Do you not think that the Harry I have found here is the right one then 

Births June qtr 1872  (freebmd) 
Lovett  Harry John    Cambridge  3b 529

Rosie

FROM CAMDEX 
Surname   LEVETT
 
Forename:   Harry
 
Middle Initial   J
 
Year of Birth   1872
 
Reference   331/SAL 031/430
 
District   Cambridge 

Charles christening gives Clementina as his mother St Andrew the Less 5th June 1881 Charley Edward of 1 Grafton Street
SAME DATE and same place
Harry John Levett mother Clementina

[Westietess]

Hi rosie99

I am not entirely sure about the Harry J Levett.  I agree his mother was Clementina.  However, my gut feeling is saying that it is not my Harry.  There is another Harry John Levett appears in the 1901 and 1911 Census.  Born abt 1873 Cambridge.  Living in Kidderminster with his wife Kate Winifred Levett.  I think that Clementina's son Harry John may be this one.

Looking through the Census's it looks like Charley E (brother) turns out quite well, Solicitors Clerk and then owing his own company.  This Harry John Levett as mentioned above is listed as a Photographic Artist.  My gut feeling is saying that if Charley turned out to be a Solicitors Clerk why did my Harry turn out to be a servant (Groom).

Still don't think that we have found the right Harry yet... plus there is never any mention of a middle name John on all my other info.

[keyboard86]

Births June qtr 1872  (freebmd) 
Lovett  Harry John    Cambridge  3b 529

Rosie

FROM CAMDEX 
Surname   LEVETT
 
Forename:   Harry
 
Middle Initial   J
 
Year of Birth   1872
 
Reference   331/SAL 031/430
 
District   Cambridge 

Hi Rosie, think this is another Harry that pops up on later returns!

Keyboard86

This is the one I spotted, but only 1901/1911?
Keyboard86

PS so, as this one has a middle name, why more confident?

Marriage Harry John Levett to Kate Winifred Onions Sept 1899 Strand 1b 1410

[rosie99]

If it was me I would be spending £9.25 to ascertain the details from the marriage of
Harry John Levett to Kate Winifred Onions Sept 1899 Strand 1b 1410 in the hope it would help eliminate.  )

Rosie