jacob myers

[mum mum]

Sorry I repeated something you had in your 'links', no not hard to click on a link, also not hard to give some idea of what is on that link either.  By the time I wait for a trove page to load and then try to find the relevant part on that page I could have found something else. We don't all have lightening fast internet speeds or unlimited downloads. LOL
I will but out and leave you to it. 
mum mum

[Jamjar]

Shows you didn't even bother to look at the links. All my Trove links say what they are about. The other two, are just NSW State records, which don't require a fast Internet connection to open.

Feel free to duplicate as you wish, it matters not to me. Also, I think that snide comments are best sent by PM, if you must send them at all, rather than posted within other's listings.

Jamjar

[sparrett]

375/1858 Jacob Myers to Caroline J Dunlop at Sydney


The newspaper item-

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13011428?searchTerm="jacob myers"&searchLimits=l-category=Family+Notices

Shows her name to be Mrs. Caroline Jane Dunlop,

With this in mind there are births to be seen to her and JACOB MYER from the year of their marriage and I also saw deaths (of those whose surname was not changed by marriage) recorded also.

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?SessionID=33223417&event=births

Caroline’s death
REG 10472 IN 1914    MYERS CAROLINE J. Parents    JOHN & MARY at ROCKDALE

Sue 

[Lozza14]

A lot of interesting info in here about my great great great grandfather, Jacob Myers. I have been researching and know that he was transported to Oz in 1826 for Highway Robbery.  The ship's manifest lists him as 16 years old, making his year of birth 1809 or 1810. We know he was pardoned around 1845 and subsequently owned a number of hotels in Sydney, the Blue Mountains, etc, shops, land - Yass, Gundagai, etc. He appears to have died in 1880, but many of the death notices, etc list him as in his 90th year, meaning he was born around 1790. This obviously conflicts with the age he was listed as when he was convicted and transported. Many people I have found accept he was born in 1790 and have then linked him with certain people as his parents. This does not appear correct.
The problem I have is that I have not been able to find his date of birth as birth records prior to 1825 in England were held in parish records, and I have no idea which parish to search. So my search has come to a dead halt.

I do have a theory that the Jacob Myers born in 1790  might have been his father - have no reason for this, other than it opens doors to further investigation!!

If anyone has anything to add that might clarify his actual birth date, or any other info of interest I would love to hear from you.

[sparrett]

Hi Lozza14
What information is listed on the death certificate for the man in 1880?
Who was the informant?

Sue

[majm]

I may be repeating information already given, but I think the following is a good indication of why I would be concerned about determining the chap of the Marquis of Huntley in 1826 and the chap who died in 1880 would be same person without first sourcing some NSW bdm certificates ... of course, I would aim for official transcriptions ... The clue I would be seeking is for a place of birth for the Jacob, father of Abraham Myers.

Sept 1826 Convict Indents/Ships Musters
Jacob MEYERS aged 17, born Amsterdam, Religion: Jew, House servant, single,  Tried at London, 19 May 1825 for Pick Pocketing, previous convictions.  Sentence Life.  Arrived per Marquis of Huntley, 13 Sept 1826 to Sydney.  Assigned to John HASSALL, Matavia.

1828 NSW census
Jacob Meyers, 19 years, Protestant, per Marquis of Huntley 1826
GS (Government Servant), Shepherd in household of Jonathn HASSALL, Newberry, Macquarie Plains, Bathurst District

1837
Ticket of Leave #0734
Jacob Myers, Allowed to remain in the district of Liverpool, tried London, per Marquis of Huntley, 1826

December 1837
Jacob Myers, 26, per Marquis of Huntley 1826
Assigned to Frederick Westmacott, Liverpool

RE : Jacob Myers died Waterloo NSW 1880 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13461606  SMH 7 June 1880 .... late of Yass. In his 90th year.

The Friends of Mr Jacob H MYERS ..... late residence, Pitt St, Redfern, opposite Cottage of Content Hotel ...  to the Necropolis.   https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13461630 SMH 7 June 1880

MYERS.-June 5, at his residence, Elizabeth Cottage, Pitt-street, Waterloo, Mr. Jacob Myers, an old resident  of Yass, in his 90th year.  https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/70944630  Town & Country 12 June 1880

OBIT
Mr Jacob Myers, an old resident of Yass, and who was in business as a butcher in Cooma, some years ago, died at Waterloo,  Sydney, last Saturday, in his 90th year.  Deceased was the father of Mr Abraham Myers, of Queanbeyan, was one of the oldest Freemasons in the colony and was always well respected by many friends.  https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/114514400  Manaro Merc. 12 June 1880

Not sure how the chap who died in June 1880 can actually be confirmed as the one on the Marquis of Marquis 1826.

ADD notice there's an Initial (H) for middle name 

JM

[majm]

Jacob MYERS, Rookwood Old Jewish Cemetery, died  5 June 1880
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q295-BS52


Abraham Myers, Rookwood Old Jewish Cemetery, died 22 Feb  1909
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q295-B9H9
Cannot see him listed at the usual online website for Rookwood*
Cannot see him listed at NSW BDM

Abraham Myers, Rookwood Old Jewish Cemetery, died 17 June 1881
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q295-B9ZN
NSW BDM #1064, aged 85 years, died Sydney, registered Sydney


NSW Electoral Roll 1878 WEST SYDNEY
Abraham MYERS, residence, 5 Swan Street.

NSW Electoral Roll 1870 WEST SYDNEY
Abraham MYERS, household, off Elizabeth St

National Directory 1867 YASS
J MYERS, North Yass


http://www.rookwoodjewishcemetery.com.au/page/search-for-a-grave


JM

[sparrett]

OBIT
Mr Jacob Myers, an old resident of Yass, and who was in business as a butcher in Cooma, some years ago, died at Waterloo,  Sydney, last Saturday, in his 90th year.  Deceased was the father of Mr Abraham Myers, of Queanbeyan, was one of the oldest Freemasons in the colony and was always well respected by many friends.  https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/114514400  Manaro Merc. 12 June 1880


JM

Now.
Here is an Obituary for a man named Solomon MEYER. 1902
It mentions the deceased was a BROTHER of Abraham MEYER,  the storekeeper of Queanbeyan.
Also that Abraham and (from what I can understand), all his family drowned in the wreck of the Dunbar in around 1857.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/100505167

Here is the death from the NSW index.
MEYER Solomon
1424/1902
Parents JACOB & not known
At GOULBURN


Here is a marriage announcement for Abraham MEYER of Queanbeyan to Julia HART.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/100505167


Sue

[sparrett]

Further to the Obituary mentioned above re Solomon MEYER.

Quote
Deceased's elder brother, Mr. Abraham.Meyer, who had preceded him to Australiaand had become a storekeeper at Queenbeyan

Mr. Meyer {Solomon} was born in London in 1823
In November 1841 he sailed for the colonies

Sue