Help with 1574 Scottish Will

[crb83]

   Can anyone help me decipher this "Testament Testamentar" from July 29, 1574?  I believe it is the father of my ancestor Gilbert McCleene, Johne MacClyne.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I got this from scotlandspeople.gov.uk and if they need to be photoshopped or altered, just let me know.

  I originally thought my ancestry was from one of the Maclean clans but all the Scottish records and pre-1660 Irish records suggest a "Muck-Leen" pronunciation rather than "Mack-Lane".  I believe this is a variant of the geographical surname from the village of Mauchline in Ayrshire.  Especially since my earliest records are of a John & Gilbert "M'Clein" in Dumfries in 1549, both merchant burgesses.


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[crb83]

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THANK YOU!!!

[Skoosh]

MacLaine, quite apart from the Highland MacLean's there are Galloway folk who called themselves variously McClennachan, MaClean, Clennachan, Claen, McClennerach, Clennerach, Clone, Maclean & Mclean. Dumfries might be the clue to your folks Galloway origin, Mauchline sounds unlikely.

Skoosh.

[crb83]

  Wow thank you for that info skoosh, it's definitely worth doing some research on.  Once I found that they were in Dumfries for an extended period of time(1550-1630), I started re-examing the name spelling.  It appears as M'Lene, M'Clyne, Maclyne, M'Klein, M'Clene, M'Kline and M'Cleene until long after Gilbert M'Cleene's sons went to Ulster.  The Macklane/Maclaine spelling and pronunciation doesn't occur until the 1670s in Londonderry.

  I wrote it off as coincidence until I saw there actually was a rare surname in the lowlands that arose independently by tenants or lairds around Mauchline in Ayrshire.  Henry IV is noted as giving safe passage to a scot named "Richard Maghlyne" in 1407 and a Sir Patrick Machlein sat on Scottish parliament by 1630.  A John Knoy de Maghlyn was a freeman weaver in York in 1394 as well.  It made me wonder how many McLains/McLeans may actually have no link to the highlands at all as this name could easily be given the patronymic "Mac" prefix due to mistranscription.

[Skoosh]

Mac,  Black's Surnames has a Walter Malynne = Maclean, Abbot of Glenluce in Galloway 1517-45, Alexander McKlane in Borgue 1684 & William M'Klin, Mains, Sanquhar 1697.

A help with Scots Secretary Script,  http://home.btconnect.com/pburnett/

Skoosh.

[Wilgil86]

CRB83 I'm not sure if you've looked into the MacLellans but there are a number of variations of that name that are similar and your name could have come from them as well as the other you referenced. Their progenitor was Cane MacGillolane. That over the years turned into the Various MacLellan variants including Lane and Lolane. There is also a shared kindred at that point with clan MacMillan and clan Leny. Your family could have split from Cane MacGillolane.

You are M222, there are 2 groups of MacLellans that are M222+. One group tested at A725+ my terminal haplogroup and the other will test the same and possibly advance my terminal. This group that tested A725 specifically is referenced by the MacLellan project to split from the McHargue family which I've read that you are closely matched to. Also Grierson is another name in A725 another of your matches as is McGlynn mentioned in another post. If you are on FTDNA my Kit number is 964686 for you to reference and compare. Beware though that you cannot trust STRs if you are M222 due to convergence so the only trustworthy test is the BigY. I also match MacDougalls, MacDowells, Macdonalds closely with STRs but do not match them in a reasonable time-frame with SNPs. I suspect you have those same matches. My interest in your threads is because I think that you and I are related in the last few hundred years and I am also looking for the origin and changes in my surname. I responded to another of your threads about Nithdale.

[GR2]

If you look back at your initial post, you will see that the moderators have removed the images of the testament and added a note to say that you should only post sections at a time for copyright reasons. Try posting the first part only.