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Bog of Guthrie Hill
« on: Saturday 14 April 12 17:14 BST (UK) »
One of my ancestors, Alexander Mann who was a weaver, lived at or in " Bog of Guthrie Hill " in 1753.
Any information relating to this place is most welcome.

Geoff
Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar

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Re: Bog of Guthrie Hill
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 April 12 17:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Geogg

A couple of modern photos of the area show here www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=30320133

This must be the family http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~huebnerlamb/rootsweb-p/p91.htm

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Re: Bog of Guthrie Hill
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 April 12 19:03 BST (UK) »
Guthrie Hill is here http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NO5551

This is the 1859 map http://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch/view/?sid=74426917

and Ainslie's 1796 map http://maps.nls.uk/joins/view/?rsid=74400188&sid=74400191&mid=577&pdesc=South%20East%20section

I can't see Bog anywhere near Guthrie Hill, but there is a place on the 1796 map called 'Dub' which has a similar meaning to 'Bog'. It's marked as 'Dubton' on the modern maps. This might be where it was, perhaps.

On the other hand, the online tree Monica refers to says that they were ar Bog of Guthery Hill in the parish of St Vigeans and this Guthrie Hill isn't in St Vigeans. It is in the parish of Guthrie. So wherever they were, I don't think it was necessarily here. Unless of course they did live in the parish of Guthrie but for some reason had all the children baptised in St Vigeans, though it was a fair distance from Guthrie to the Kirkton of St Vigeans in terms of that time, either walking or with a horse-drawn vehicle of some kind.

It could even be that they lived in the same place all the time, but that it was referred to by several different names in the baptismal records. However I cannot find a Damley in the parish of Guthrie or anywhere with Guthrie in it in the parish of St Vigeans.
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Re: Bog of Guthrie Hill
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 April 12 12:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks to Monica L & Forfarian for this information. It looks as though I now need to take stock and restart this story at the beginning.

Geoff
Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar


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Re: Bog of Guthrie Hill
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 22:18 BST (UK) »
Hi, Geoff

Regarding Bog of Guthrie Hill, there are two streets in Arbroath named Guthrie Hill and The Bog (which was later renamed Bog Lane, and today Grant Road).

Guthrie Hill and The Bog are shown at the north end of the town on NLS's 1822 town plan of Arbroath by John Wood.

Perhaps this will help you widen your search.

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Re: Bog of Guthrie Hill
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 22:36 BST (UK) »
You've cracked it, Cobus.

The map is online at the NLS http://maps.nls.uk/towns/view/?id=305

Guthrie Hill and the Bog are in the part of the town that is in the parish of St Vigeans, and Damley is right at the top of the map.

QED  :)
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Re: Bog of Guthrie Hill
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 April 12 09:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you Cobus & Forfarian. Good result!

Geoff
Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar