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Offline tilly56

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Re: Help in identifying Mary's badge
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 12:45 BST (UK) »
Hello Cati

Thank you very much for the picture - I have had another good look at the photo of Mary's brooch and I don't think that it is a "4"..... it looks more like a tower in grass, or an upturned cannon!  There are definitely rifles sticking out either side of the brooch.

I have worked my way through Google pictures and I cannot find any brooch that matches.

I wondered whether it could be for her brother, Charles, that she wore the badge - I found the photograph in his "photo wallet" along with one of another sister. He was in the Royal Field Artillery, 6th London Brigade.

Another mystery ???

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Re: Help in identifying Mary's badge
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 14:51 BST (UK) »
Yes, it definitely looks like rifles and possibly a tower of some kind

I am hoping this close up comes out clearly ;D

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Re: Help in identifying Mary's badge
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 14:57 BST (UK) »
The Royal Field Artillery insignia (as shown on a sweetheart brooch) would be a cannon (example of a rather nice one below), so I think we can rule that one out.

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Re: Help in identifying Mary's badge
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 16:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the posting the close-up, Milly - I couldn't work out how to do it with my programme!!

So not Royal Field Artillery......  doesn't look like sharpshooters, we'll work our way through the British Army and maybe we will find it!! ;D

Thank you again for the help

Tilly
Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare
Duliscouet, Le Stanguennec, Le Clanche-Brittany


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Re: Help in identifying Mary's badge
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 16:40 BST (UK) »
... just a thought - it couldn't be the front of a ship, could it?  On the sea??  Two of her brothers were in the marines...

Tilly
Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare
Duliscouet, Le Stanguennec, Le Clanche-Brittany


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Re: Help in identifying Mary's badge
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 19:05 BST (UK) »
The brooch is most likely to show a regimental emblem  (or part thereof), or to spell out the name of a place, such as 'Ypres', which we can ignore in this case...

The regimental emblem of the Royal Marines would be the Eastern Hemisphere, which Mary's clearly isn't.

I'll see if I can borrow my Dad's book on Sweetheart Brooches and have a look through.

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Re: Help in identifying Mary's badge
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 19:55 BST (UK) »
This is the sort of thing we are looking for..


http://www.regimentalbrooches.com/shop.php?c=500

Although the one here has 3 as it is 3rd County of London Yeomanry (Sharpshooters) Silver Sweetheart Brooch. 

This on has the crossed rifles which are at a slightly wider angle although that could be to facilitate the South Africa scroll underneath.


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Re: Help in identifying Mary's badge
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 21:22 BST (UK) »
This is the sort of thing we are looking for..
http://www.regimentalbrooches.com/shop.php?c=500
Although the one here has 3 as it is 3rd County of London Yeomanry (Sharpshooters) Silver Sweetheart Brooch. 
This on has the crossed rifles which are at a slightly wider angle although that could be to facilitate the South Africa scroll underneath.
Milly

The photo I posted of the 4th County of London Sharpshooters was only intended to show a brooch for that regiment with the correct regimental number.  I'm still of the opinion that it's that regiment.

I've just looked through all 3 volumes of Pamela Caunt's 'Military Sweethearts', and can't find anything that matches.  There were literally millions of different designs, though, and Caunt never intended her work to be definitive.

I can't imagine why the design would show a single tower: that doesn't seem to have any meaning. 



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Re: Help in identifying Mary's badge
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 21:24 BST (UK) »
This is the sort of thing we are looking for..
http://www.regimentalbrooches.com/shop.php?c=500
Although the one here has 3 as it is 3rd County of London Yeomanry (Sharpshooters) Silver Sweetheart Brooch. 
This on has the crossed rifles which are at a slightly wider angle although that could be to facilitate the South Africa scroll underneath.
Milly

The photo I posted of the 4th County of London Sharpshooters was only intended to show a brooch for that regiment with the correct regimental number.  I'm still of the opinion that it's that regiment.  Looking at the image you've posted, it's almost a companion piece to the one Mary's wearing.

I've just looked through all 3 volumes of Pamela Caunt's 'Military Sweethearts', and can't find anything that matches.  There were literally millions of different designs, though, and Caunt never intended her work to be definitive.

I can't imagine why the design would show a single tower: that doesn't seem to have any meaning. 



Cati



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