2 marriages 1 year apart both with sons?

[esdel]

Mary Barwise, b 1747, died 1810. married
John Bouch on 23 Aug 1764 at Wigton M00198
AND
John's brother Richard at Bromfield 1 May 1763 as shown in the parish records!
Richard's sons were
William b 1767, Joseph b 1781, Thomas b 1790
John called his son John b 1765

I am baffled!

[clearly]

Is the info from Familysearch or actually from the parish registers? Anything submitted by individuals on Familysearch I have found is always very suspect.

[CaroleW]

Mary Barwise, b 1747, died 1810. married
John Bouch on 23 Aug 1764 at Wigton M00198
AND
John's brother Richard at Bromfield 1 May 1783 as shown in the parish records!
Richard's sons were
William b 1767, Joseph b 1781, Thomas b 1790
John called his son John b 1765

Sorry - but why are you baffled?  From the info you have provided above - it seems quite straightforward

Mary & John had a son called John

Presumably John snr then died and Mary married her brother in law Richard

Richard was presumably a widower with 2 sons born to his first wife - William & Joseph

After marrying Mary in 1783 - they had Thomas b 1790 

[esdel]

So sorry - there was a typo, now corrected!
The two years, one year apart are 1763 and 1764 and I miss-typed or miss-read the 64 whan I copied it onto my post.

Hope this clears up your bafflement over my bafflement, Carole!

The Richard husband was buried 11 Jun 1803 at Wigton
The John husband died 6 Apr 1807

For their birth dates I have Richard about 1742 and John about 1739

So it seems they really were not just the same man who later called himself John

[BumbleB]

Where did you get the information from?  Was it Family Search?

I can see the marriage of John and Mary on Family Search with the details as you give them.  However, the marriage for Richard Bouch on 1 May 1763 does not give the name of the bride!!!! - source film number 90574.

[esdel]

There may indeed be an error in the records
For this reason a friend (Russ Allison) visited the locality and has seen the Parish records and there indeed appears to be 2 marriages for Mary Barwise in the same Parish, only a year apart

What is the most likely way for such errors to arise?

[Geoff-E]

Isn't the most likely explanation that there were two Mary BARWISEs?

There was no shortage of them born 1730 to 1750 in the Wigton area.

[BumbleB]

From the website cumberlandroots :

Wigton - marriage 23 August 1764 - Mary Barwise single woman both of this parish and John Bouch bachelor


Wigton BTs -
baptism - 21 November 1765 - John son of John and Mary Bouch of Oulton
burial - 11 June 1803 - Richard Bouch of Oulton, householder aged 61
burial - 9 April 1807 - John Bouch of Oulton, yeoman aged 67
burial - 3 February 1810 - Mary Bouch of Oulton, widow of late John Bouch, yeoman aged 63


Unfortunately Bromfield marriages do not appear on this site prior to 1813.

[esdel]

Isn't the most likely explanation that there were two Mary BARWISEs?

There was no shortage of them born 1730 to 1750 in the Wigton area.

Yes I like that one Geoff!

So let us assume they were not both born and died the same day!
To whom do we assign the known birth and death?