Tyran Hughes - Llanfair yn Neubwll?

[dragonT]

I'm looking for information on the husband of Elizabeth Parry, she was born Llanfair yn Neubwll 1847. Her gravestone (Siloh, Caergeiliog) records her name as Elizabeth Tyran Hughes and she died 20 Oct 1919.
In 1911 she is a widowed visitor at 3 Longford Terrace Holyhead:
John Jones (Head - 56), engine fitter of Llechylched
Ellen Jones (Wife - 45), Llanfairneubwll
Elizabeth Ann Jones (Dau - 15), Holyhead
Elizabeth Tyran Hughes (Visitor - 64), Llanfairneubwll

Thanks

[wrjones]

You will know the relevance perhaps of the middle name Tyran but looking through the Census years it doesn't appear with an Elizabeth Hughes through the years 1881-1901 or there doesn't appear any Elizabeth T Hughes in the period.

Having said all that,it is possible she may have married an Owen Hughes in 1877,given on free BMD as in the Jul/Aug/Sep quarter,"Anglesey District of Anglesey"!Volume 11b,Page 749.

Census years;
1881-RG11/5593/8/10.
1891-Uncertain?
1901-RG13.5298/16/1.

There is a death of an Owen Hughes in the Holyhead District of Anglesey in 1904,his birthyear is given as c 1858.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[dragonT]

Thanks William,

I can eliminate the marriage to Owen Hughes in 1877 - the bride's father was Henry Parry and the bride was 24 at the time. Also their place of residence (both at Bridge Street, Llangefni) and the place of marriage (Bethesda Chapel, Amlwch), while not impossible, seem unlikely. 'My' Elizabeth Parry was the daughter of David Parry and would have been 30 in July 1877.

I've searched through the records of Anglesey marriages and cannot find a possible candidate for 'my' Elizabeth Parry and husband surname Hughes, so I think they married elsewhere. Neither can I find a census record for her, as either Parry or Hughes, between 1871 and 1901 (I have RG9/4372/39/31 as a possible in 1861).

I previously assumed that the middle name Tyran came with marriage but perhaps it was adopted by Elizabeth Parry/Hughes as a middle name because it had some family significance. I have found a few other instances of Tyran (or variants) in the Llanfair-yn-Neubwll records:

Death 6 Mar 1844, Tynddol, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll – Sarah Tyran, 89, widow of Henry Tyran (labourer). (Holyhead 2, 30, 150).
1841 census (HO 107/1358/13/8) - Tynddol, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll – Sarah David, widow, pauper, 80.
Marriage 24 Jan 1785, Henry Tyrer & Sarah Davis, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll (IGI M09002-1).
Baptism 30 Oct 1785, David Henry, parents Henry Tyrer/Sarah, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll (IGI C09002-1).

David Parry, Elizabeth Parry’s father, is my great(x2) grandfather, and is a major ‘brick wall’ in my family research. I can speculate that he is a child of Henry Tyran/Tyrer but his age at censuses and at his death show that he was probably born 1792/3 and is not the David Henry baptized in 1785 (above). I cannot find any evidence for other, later children of Henry Tyran and Sarah.

Any suggestions?

[Owen ap Anglesey]

I have no information for you - but your story intrigues me because my Grand uncle John Thomas born 1885 suddenly developed a middle name of Tyran post 1911. The family hailed from the same village of Llanfair yn Neubwll, although they moved to nearby Rhoscolyn in the mid 1800's.
Have also failed to find your Elizabeth Parry/Hughes prior to 1911, but since you mention that her father was a David Parry - can you guide me to any census details for him?

[dragonT]

Hi Owen,

David Parry (~1792 – 27/01/1875) is living at Cerrig Iago, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll for the censuses 1841 – 1871:

1841 – HO 107/1358/13/9/12
1851 – HO 107/2522/328/6
1861 – RG 9/4370/92/2
1871 – RG 10/5751/5/3

[trefaldwyn]

You will know the relevance perhaps of the middle name Tyran

I'm also interested in the name Tyran - what is the relevance of the middle name Tyran that you refer to?