MUSSEN and associated families

[BallyaltikilliganG]

I have searched all my Whitla material for a Mussen connection unsuccessfully. However thelocation Glenavy connections exist
My Whitla line emanating from Co Monaghan,was previously Whitley Co Armagh. Your Whitla line I think is the Glenavy line published in the book volumes known as the Visitations of Ireland [copy in the LinenHall Library, Belfast] modernish researchers inc Capt Jock, Leslie Whitla [& others in Oz], and Richard & Sally Wale in 2004 and the late Patrick Corkey
Try Whitla Message board on Genforum and Rootsweb

Good luck, Jim

[RosemaryJoan]

I have a Charlotte Mussen born about 1805 wife of William McConnell born in 1878, both in Dromore.  They had 10 children, including a Blaney McConnell, which is a Christian name common in the Mussen family.  Their daughter Sarah was my g.grandmother who had several children out of wedlock, including my grandmother.  (Oh, the shame!!)
Have you by any chance, the marriage of Charlotte and William, or any other information about Charlotte??
RosemaryJoan

[hollyhenry]

Hi RosemaryJoan,

This is all I have on a Blaney family. Blaney is a stray for me. I have not been able to find who his parents were. I will look further through my notes for the McConnell connection for you. I am interested to know the connection.

Blaney Mussen, carpenter & Charlotte Cunningham   Married 3 Aug 1832 Dromore Parish, Down (LDS batch M700051)  From KJR witnesses to marriages James Mitchell & Samuel Flack.
 - Mary  b:1832  married 1857 Apr 24 Magheralin C.O.I. Joseph Boston.
 -  John  b:1834 Dec 20. Bap Dec 21, Magheralin, Dromo & Dromero, never married
 -  Elizabeth  b:1837 Feb 5, Magheralin,  married 1855 John Cousins Magheralin
 -  Charlotte  b:1838 Aug 26, Magheralin, Dromo & Dromero married 1857 Jacob Hewston,
                     Magheralin, Lurgan -son Blayney Hewston born 1 Mar 1867, Knocknadona, Antrim
                     (LDS batch C701311)
-  Sarah  b:1842 Sept 25
 - Rachel  b:1847 July 11. Married Moses Brown 1884 Dec 3 Lurgan Registration Office
      * 1901 Census - Rachel Brown age 50 living with brother John Mussen
                                 (not married, carpenter, can read & write) and niece Minnie Mussen
                                 (married, seamstress, cannot read or write) in Dollingstown, Magheralin, Down
 -  Robert  bap:1853 May 29

Blaney died 1882, civil reg Jul-Sep 1882, Lurgan, age 60, vol 1, pg 457, digital folder 4200673 Film Number: 101591
Buried Dromore Cathedral aged 73

If you have anything to add or correct I would be most grateful!

[RosemaryJoan]

Yes, I have seen all these records and I BELIEVE that Blaney Mussen is my Charlotte's brother but can't prove it.
This name Blayney turns up now and again.
I'll wait and see if you find any more info.  I have all the McConnell data if you would like it.  Send me a PM  if you like.

RosemaryJoan

[hollyhenry]

I have (through a private researcher) a list of marriages at Lisburn Cathedral. I was wondering if anyone else had couples they could add to the list. If we all share we may find something! So please feel free to add any data you may have. I can do the same for baptisms and burials if there is any interest as well as Derriaghy Parish Church.

MARRIAGES 1664-1735
1675    James MUSSEN and Ann Burrowes of Lisburn Octo the 5th
1682    Mr ffrancis Mussenden & Mrs Isabella Johnston of Blaris Nov ye 3rd
1684    Richard MUSSEN of Dirr: & Catharin Dougall of Lisb: Apr 3

Marriages 1735-1739 [one page, p148]
No Mussen

Marriages 1739 & 1745-1760
1748 Aug 6  **John MUSSEN & Eliza Higginson, Lisburn

Marriages 1763-1792 [microfilm faded]
1769 [no date] Mr Warren & Miss Mussen
1774 Novem’r 12th  - Elias Clegg & Catherin Musen
1777 Aug 10th  - George MUSSEN & Isabella Johnson by Lic

Marriages 1792-1819
 1795 May 2’d      John Herdman, Lisburn & Agnes Mussen, Derryaghy by Licence
 1795  Dec’r 3rd     James Mussen Derryaghy & Mary Newburn, Lisburn
 1811 May 10      Mr Matthew Mussen & Miss Margaret Allen by Licence
 1811 June 20      John Major & Isabella Mussen by Licence
 1813 Feb 17     Thomas Mussen and Jane Greer by Licence
1815 Jan 27     Richard Mussen and Margaret Collins by Licence
1815 March 10th     Hugh Seeds and Sarah Mussen

Marriages 1820-1848 & Burials 1820-1848 [mixed]
1820-February 27th    Robert Walsh & Sarah Allen, Lic
1820 – February 29th    John Mussen & Jane Marten, Lic
1820 – March 10th       Robert Seeds & Ann Mussen, Licence
1820-Apr 28       John Waring & Martha Cosgrave, Licence
1820-May 4       Samuel Waring & Mary Dodds, Licence
1820-Sept 30       Adam Kelly & Jane McKeown
1820 – Nov’r 8       Mr John Dolan and Miss Catherine Mussen, Licence
1821 – Oct 15       Alexander Anderson & Elizabeth Mussen Licence
1821 – Dec’r 27       Robert Orr McKitterick of the parish of Bangor Esq, Surgeon and Miss Nessey Mussen, Spinster (by Licence)
 of the parish of Lisburn
1822 – March 22       William Murdock and Arrabella Mussen, Licence
1823 – Sept 24       Richard Warren & Charlotte Mussen Licence
1823 – Nov 14       John Rogers and Agnes Mussen Licence
1825 – Dec 8       Thomas Mussen & Charlotte Waring, widow, Licence
1827 – Nov’r 10       William Mussen & Margaret Murdock, Licence
1829 – March 19       Adam Blackburn & Mary Mussen, Licence
1830 July 27      John Johnston & Mary Robinson
1832 – March 11       Francis Weldon & Charlotte Mussen Licence
1832 – Augst 5       Henry Clenaghan & Isabella Murdock alias Mussen, Licence
1838 – Dec 16       Francis Halliday & Rebecca Mussen, Licence
1842 – Aug 19       Arthur Mussen & Margaret Camac, Lisburn, Licence
1849 – Jul 22      James Johnston of Longstone, shoemaker, son of James Johnston, 
                                   married Margaret Neill
1850 Feb 3      William Johnston of Longston, shoemaker, son of John Johnston (a weaver)
                                 & Elizabeth McCann

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[HughC]

Strange that you should have the marriage on 6 Aug. 1748 of John Mussen to Eliza Higginson.  According to my records it was a year earlier, to her sister whose forename I know not.  Eliza or Elizabeth (1721-1801) m. Hugh Casement of Ballinderry; the will (1806) of their son Thomas mentions Elizabeth and Frances Mussen and their sister Mrs Mary Walker of Lisburn, but does not specifically identify them as cousins.

That Elizabeth was a dau. of George Higginson of Magheragall parish who d. ca 1744 and his wife who may have been Ann, dau. of Thomas Welsh who was a churchwarden of Lisburn.  Unfortunately the Higginson pedigree in Burke's Irish Family Records is not to be trusted: it appears to have been compiled by Col. James Graham who was an unreliable researcher.

Don't know whether any of this helps, or whether 'Magheragall' can clarify matters at all, at all.

[hollyhenry]

I will have another look at my originals when I get home. That marriage of John Mussen & Elizabeth Higginson is a stray one that I have not found any connections for, so perhaps it is an error.

I am curious about the will you mention of Hugh Casement. He is a person of interest to me. Is the will on the PRONI site or do you have a copy. Would you be willinto share the details in it?

Thank you! more later ...

[HughC]

hollyhenry,

The will was of Hugh's son Thomas.  PRONI D1715/3 and D1769/7.
Hugh's (anno 1797) is D2489/3 and D896/64/39 (codicil, I think)

Probably not on their web site, but some years ago I made transcripts.
What's your connection with that family?

I think I'm going to have to cycle down to the Linen Hall Library
and follow up Jim's lead.

[hollyhenry]

I will send you a PM as the Casement connection is a little round about to explain!