Author Topic: COMPLETED Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston  (Read 2114 times)

Offline timmis1

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 180
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
COMPLETED Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston
« on: Monday 30 April 12 13:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

I came onto roots-chat last summer regarding my gggrandmother Emma Roberts and
some one kindly helped me (I think it was Neptune ) and suggested that her mother was probably a Charlotte Molyneux who had married an Edward Roberts.
I just wondered where Neptune found the information regarding the marriage of Charlotte Molyneux and Edward Roberts.
I have been onto Cheshire free BMD and found a Charlotte M Rogers marrying a Edward Roberts in Thurstaston in 1840.
Last year I came across a Charlotte Molineux on Ancestry but she was down as Charlotte Molinneux Rogers who married an Edward Roberts in 1840.
I wonder if this is  the  Charlotte Molyneux mother of Emma Roberts?
If so I would like to find out more about Charlotte Molineux and who her father was but I have been unable to find anything with respect to her family by looking for her baptism on Free reg and only information on her mother on the LDS family search website.
Has anyone got any pointers?

Regards

Sue


Offline trish1120

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,321
  • Happy me
    • View Profile
Re: Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 April 12 14:26 BST (UK) »
I havent looked back over your info to see when your Emma Roberts was born but looks to me  that Charlotte named her after her Mother;

Charlotte Molineax ROGERS
Christened 04 October 1835, Thurstaston, Cheshire
Mother EMMA Rogers
Birth 10 February 1820
(Source Familysearch.Org)

1841 Census
Thurtaston, Cheshire
HO107/127/4/Thurstaston
John ROBERTS, 60, Ag Lab
Alice, 60
Edward, 25, Mason
Charlotte, 20
Ann, 6mths

Marriage is under on FreeBMD;
Charlotte Molineux ROGERS, June 1840, Wirrall, 19 271

Trish :)
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

Offline trish1120

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,321
  • Happy me
    • View Profile
Re: Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 April 12 14:38 BST (UK) »
Christenings to EDWARD/CHARLOTTE
(down as Edward Roberts and Charlotte Molyneax)
ANN, 12 Sept 1841
EMMA, 02 May 1844
MARTHA, 02 May 1844
(Charlotte Molyneax is just the same as having Mother down as Patricia Ann)

Now who was the Mother of the 2 Sons of Edward, Widower, in 1851 Census William 1837 and Joseph 1839?
Are they actually born 1847 and 1849. (image is bad and they are listed under Ann/Emma)
If not where are they in 1841?

EDIT yes William is age 14 in 1861 Census, so born c 1847, Thurslaston.
(satisfied my curiousity!)

Charlotte ROBERTS was Buried 24 October 1848, Thurstaston, age 28, Birth c 1820
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)


Offline timmis1

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 180
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 April 12 16:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish

Thanks for your response.
I am still intrigued as to why Charlotte has a double barrelled name, could that be the name of her daddy?
I don`t know what other sources other than free Reg to look at.
I know there is the Cheshire Parish Records Database, but that didn`t seem to have anything covering Charlotte.
In the Cheshire Parish records database very often even though the chuild is illigitamate they have put there daddy`s name down.
Perhaps I will have to look at the bastarday records in Ancestry, however if anyone has any ideas let us know.

Regards

Sue

Offline Neptune

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 496
    • View Profile
Re: Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 April 12 21:55 BST (UK) »
Hi

Just had a look on FindMyPast to see if there's a baptism for Charlotte - this seems to be the same one that trish found -

Baptism in the parish of Thurstaston 4th October 1835

Charlotte Molineux(childs christian name) Illegitimate daughter
 Mother Emma Rogers      Chester  Married Woman

Maybe Charlotte's father's name was Molineux?

Hope this helps

Neptune
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Neptune

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 496
    • View Profile
Re: Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 April 12 23:56 BST (UK) »
Hi again

Sorry I forgot to mention that the parish register also states born 10th February 1820.

(The surname is spelt Molineax in the search)

Regards

Neptune
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline timmis1

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 180
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 May 12 06:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Neptune

Thanks for that.
I presumed the daddy must have been called Molineux.
However the fact that Emma Rogers was married is interesting, does the Chester mean she then moved to Chester or was orginally from Chester?
Does FindMyPast also mention the Church that Charlotte was baptised at I could request a copy of the baptism record, which may give me some more informaiton.

Sue

Offline Neptune

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 496
    • View Profile
Re: Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 May 12 07:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue

Yes - the parish of Thurstaston. I think the church is St Bartholomew - still there.

I'm just on my way to work but if you would like to send me your e-mail address by pm I can send you the baptism record tonight so you can see it.

I think Emma might have been from Chester - the writing above is very feint -I'll
have another look later.

Her christian names are Charlotte Mulineax but her surname is Rogers.

Regards

Neptune
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline trish1120

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,321
  • Happy me
    • View Profile
Re: Charlotte Molyneux Rogers 1820 - 1848 Thurstaston
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 May 12 11:11 BST (UK) »
There is also another possibility that Emma was a Mulineaux and married a Rogers later.
Possibly Mr Rogers was Charlottes Father.
It is strange that Charlotte was christened 15yrs after she was born maybe they came to a Religious later?
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)