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Amy Florence Curtis goes missing for 30 years! Please help!
« on: Monday 30 April 12 23:22 BST (UK) »
Hello all. I haven't posted for a while, but I am really stuck on this one, sorry it's a bit long.

I am researching Amy Florence Curtis and she's proving a bit slippery!

She was born in Warminster Wilts in 1859/ 1860

I have found her in 1861 aged 1 with her parents Arthur and Julia Curtis in Amber road Warminster.

There is no sign of her with her parents in 1871. They are easy enough to find with her younger brother, Francis who's 7. Amy would only be 11, so why isn't she with her parents?

In 1881, she is again nowhere to be seen. She would be 20 and isn't with her parents, but I can't find her anywhere else either.

She marries Luther Baverstock in 1883

And yet again, in 1891, there is no sign! Her husband is living/ staying with his sister and brother in law in London, but there is no sign of Amy! She has two sons now, Reginald Vere Baverstock and William. I can't find any of them.

She finally shows up in 1901 and 1911 with Luther and children and lives to a ripe old age.

Can anyone help with the missing 30 years? It seems so strange that she isn't with her parents or her husband in 3 censuses!

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Re: Amy Florence Curtis goes missing for 30 years! Please help!
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 April 12 23:27 BST (UK) »
Hi in 1871 she looks to be the AMIE F Curtis aged 11 shown as Grandaughter to a Betty Smith aged 66 at Market Place, Warminster there are also 2 boarders an Ann and Georgina Greenwood
Census Ref RG10/1933/55/19
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Re: Amy Florence Curtis goes missing for 30 years! Please help!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 April 12 23:35 BST (UK) »
Hi again, in 1891 she is with her family and new son Herbert S aged 8 months at 89, Portway, Warminster  Betty Smith aged 89 Widow is again shown as Grandmother with her on RG12/1609/132/17
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PS Luther was originally expected to be there as his name but no age etc are on original!
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Re: Amy Florence Curtis goes missing for 30 years! Please help!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 April 12 23:45 BST (UK) »
I wonder if this is her in 1881?  Emily Curtis aged 20 and a 'cook' at the home of William Chapman a retired miller and his family.  Sombourne House, Sombourne Road, Warminster. Ref. 1881 census RG11/2956 56 page 3.

The enumerators didn't always get the names right.


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Re: Amy Florence Curtis goes missing for 30 years! Please help!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 May 12 20:29 BST (UK) »
Ahh, that explains a lot, thank you very much.

I will look into the Emily/ Amy possibility. If there are no matching Emilys in the other censuses, then then perhaps this is her?

Thanks once again for your help! :)

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 May 12 20:58 BST (UK) »
Hi again, the fact that Amy was with her Grandmother Betty Smith, and I note that Arthur Curtis married a Julia Ford in June 1858 Warminster, left me wondering how Julia was related possibly to Betty, so this is the 1851 Census:-

William Smith 56 occ Gardener b Heytesbury Wilts
Betty Smith 46 b Warminster
Julia Ford Gardiner 19 Daughter occ Semptress b Warminster
Residing at Smiths Yard, East Street, Warminster
Census Ref HO107/1843/179/12

In 1841 Julia is aged 10 and Julia Gardner, Betty Smith is 30 William Smith 40 at East Street Census Ref HO107/1187/ 11/5/ 2
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 May 12 22:02 BST (UK) »
Oh dear! I have had a glass of wine and I am very confused now!
I have completely missed the connection between Julia and Betty and William. Presumably they are her parents, so where does the Ford Gardiner bit come in? Are Betty Smith and Julia Gardiner the same person?   ???

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 May 12 03:13 BST (UK) »
Oh dear! I have had a glass of wine and I am very confused now!
I have completely missed the connection between Julia and Betty and William. Presumably they are her parents, so where does the Ford Gardiner bit come in? Are Betty Smith and Julia Gardiner the same person?   ???

Take your pick of these christening places:-

Julia Ford Gardner 11th Sept 1839 birth 1832 St Denys, Warminster Mother Betty Gardner

Julia Ford Gardner 11th Sept 1839 birth 1832 St Lawrence, Warminster Mother Betty Gardner.

Marriage Betty Gardener to William Smith Dec 1839 Warminster v8 page 717

Christening Betty Gardener 7th October 1804 St Denys, Warminster Father Thomas Mother Betty
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Re: Amy Florence Curtis goes missing for 30 years! Please help!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 May 12 14:06 BST (UK) »
So my search for Amy has opened up another mystery!

So, my understanding is......

Julia Ford was probably the illegitimate daughter of Betty Gardiner and her fancy man Mr Ford!

Julia was born on the 11th September 1939 yet Betty does not marry William until the third quarter of 1939, AFTER Julia was born. Betty was also pretty old to be married as she was 35.

I can't find Julia on Ancestry in 1851, did you use find my past?

Would the most sensible next step be to find a birth for  Julia Ford and order a birth certificate? It may show the father on there of course and we should see Betty Gardiner/ Ford.

Thank you for all your help, I certainly need it with this one!