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1841 look-up please, RANDLES, Llandrinio
« on: Friday 20 May 05 09:35 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I've just got a new name in my MGY researches. Rosmamond RANDLES married William JONES in Llandrinio in 1837

Rosamond's father is listed as Thomas Randles, miller. I'm hoping he's still alive in 1841.

William's father is listed as Richard jones, wheelwright, but appreciate Jones' ar e lot harder to pin down

all help much appreciated

Cheers!
BARKER, BATE, DENNETT, MERCER, FAIRHURST, CLAYSON, FITTON, HORROX, PEASE, BROOMFIELD, BIRCHALL, APPLETON, WILKINSON, ARNOLD, STANDISH Lancashire
FLOYD, DONNITHORN, BEAGLEHOLE, TREMAYNE, ROGERS BUGELHOLE Cornwall
HAYNES, JONES, HUMPHREYS, HARRIES Montgomery
JONES, CURRIE, LITTLE, McKENZIE Lanark
NEILSON SLOSS Stirling
PEASE, LAND, DOWSON, FARRER, SW(E)ATMAN, LYON, ABEL Norfolk
STUBBERFIELD, Hants/Renfrew/Argyll
TODD, HARDY, GREEN, HOWDEN, WALTON Durham

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Re: 1841 look-up please, RANDLES, Llandrinio
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 May 05 19:30 BST (UK) »
Hello

I do not have access to the 1841 census.  However, I do have the 1851 & 1861, and if you have not already had info from these censuses in respect of Thomas Randles & Richard Jones, please come back to me and I will let you have the details I've found which could be the ones you are looking for.

Stan.
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Hudson:Hutson:Oliver:Perkin:Turner:Davies:Edmunds:Jones:Smith:Evans - Montgomeryshire
Beamond - Shropshire
Jones:Atkinson:Davies:Williams - Denbighshire
Jones:Evans - Merionethshire

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Re: 1841 look-up please, RANDLES, Llandrinio
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 May 05 08:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Stan

Any 1851, 61 info would be much appreciated!

All the best

EC
BARKER, BATE, DENNETT, MERCER, FAIRHURST, CLAYSON, FITTON, HORROX, PEASE, BROOMFIELD, BIRCHALL, APPLETON, WILKINSON, ARNOLD, STANDISH Lancashire
FLOYD, DONNITHORN, BEAGLEHOLE, TREMAYNE, ROGERS BUGELHOLE Cornwall
HAYNES, JONES, HUMPHREYS, HARRIES Montgomery
JONES, CURRIE, LITTLE, McKENZIE Lanark
NEILSON SLOSS Stirling
PEASE, LAND, DOWSON, FARRER, SW(E)ATMAN, LYON, ABEL Norfolk
STUBBERFIELD, Hants/Renfrew/Argyll
TODD, HARDY, GREEN, HOWDEN, WALTON Durham

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Re: 1841 look-up please, RANDLES, Llandrinio
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 May 05 19:19 BST (UK) »
Hi EC

The only Thomas Randles, described as a Miller,in 1851 is as follows:

Living at Mill, Llanymynech, Mtg.
Thomas Randles (48) miller, b. Kinnerley, Salop
Elizabeth Randles (44) his wife, b. Trefonen, Salop
Children: James (19) b. Trefonen, Thomas (17) b. Trefonen
John (12) b. Trebach, Salop, Samuel (9) b. Trebach, Ellen (6) b. Llanymynech, Mtg.
Bearing in mind Rosamond Randles married in 1837, 14 years before this census, casts some doubt on whether the above are her parents and siblings.

Living at Trederwen, Llandrinio
Richard Jones (79) wheelwright, b. Shrewsbury, Salop
Mary Jones (70) wheelwright, b. Llandrinio, Mtg.
Robert Jones (29) wheelwright, b. Llandrinio
Tryphenah Jones (28) his wife, b. Llandrinio
their children, James (8), Thomas (6) and Alice (3) all born Llandrinio.

Unfortunately I cannot find either of these families on the 1861 census. It appears that this area may have come under 'Salop' in 1861, and therefore a look-up in the Shropshire 1861 census may prove useful.

Good luck
Stan.
Hudson:Hutson:Oliver:Perkin:Turner:Davies:Edmunds:Jones:Smith:Evans - Montgomeryshire
Beamond - Shropshire
Jones:Atkinson:Davies:Williams - Denbighshire
Jones:Evans - Merionethshire


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Re: 1841 look-up please, RANDLES, Llandrinio
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 May 05 08:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Stan

This is very kind. As you point out the Randles looks wrong due to dates. I'l keep looking. The Jones looks spot on. your help is much appreciated

all the best

EC
BARKER, BATE, DENNETT, MERCER, FAIRHURST, CLAYSON, FITTON, HORROX, PEASE, BROOMFIELD, BIRCHALL, APPLETON, WILKINSON, ARNOLD, STANDISH Lancashire
FLOYD, DONNITHORN, BEAGLEHOLE, TREMAYNE, ROGERS BUGELHOLE Cornwall
HAYNES, JONES, HUMPHREYS, HARRIES Montgomery
JONES, CURRIE, LITTLE, McKENZIE Lanark
NEILSON SLOSS Stirling
PEASE, LAND, DOWSON, FARRER, SW(E)ATMAN, LYON, ABEL Norfolk
STUBBERFIELD, Hants/Renfrew/Argyll
TODD, HARDY, GREEN, HOWDEN, WALTON Durham

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Re: 1841 look-up please, RANDLES, Llandrinio
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 October 05 19:36 BST (UK) »
Here they are in 1841 EC.
RG107/1434/8, Enum Dist 9, page 18 Llanrinio (sic) Parish.
Address:  Llon or Llan.   All surnames Jones.
Richard, 70, Wheelwright, N
Mary, 60, Y
Edward, 25, Y
Robert, 20, Y
Elizabeth (I think), 17, Y
Edwin, 4, Y

Because you posted this some time ago, I'll send a PM as a reminder and will look for Randles
Cheers Dave  8)
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   Research:   Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire.   Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire.  Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall.   Foster in Liverpoo.l   Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire.  Mawby, Popple in Rutland.   Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset.   Willis in Oxfordshire.   Fishlock, Snell, Fry, in Wiltshire

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Re: 1841 look-up please, RANDLES, Llandrinio
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 October 05 19:49 BST (UK) »
Further to my post of a few minutes ago this seems too much of a coincidence................
Same reference as before, just 2 households removed
All surnames Jones
Thomas, 35, Wheelwright, N
Martha, 35, Y
Mary, 12, Y
Martha, 10, Y
John, 6, Y
Ann, 2, Y

Could not find Thomas Randles the Miller in Llandrinio in 1841.   But looking at a previous post, if Samuel was born in Trebach, Salop around 1842, the family probably hadn't moved there yet.
Hope it helps
Cheers Dave  8)
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   Research:   Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire.   Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire.  Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall.   Foster in Liverpoo.l   Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire.  Mawby, Popple in Rutland.   Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset.   Willis in Oxfordshire.   Fishlock, Snell, Fry, in Wiltshire

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Re: 1841 look-up please, RANDLES, Llandrinio
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 June 13 17:54 BST (UK) »
Brynhyfryd --
I am replying to an old posting of yours on this thread from 2005.
I've been unable to find the Thomas Randles (age 48) you mention, or any of his family , on ancestry.com. Wondering where you found it and if I can get a copy/scan of the page?
I'm a descendent of Elizabeth Randles from the Carreghofa area .

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Re: 1841 look-up please, RANDLES, Llandrinio
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 June 13 20:22 BST (UK) »
They are mis-transcribed on Ancestry in 1851 as Ranelli
The census ref is Piece  2499  Folio 544  Page 2

In 1841 they are at Treflach,Oswestry
Census ref  Piece  915  Book/Folio  2/74  Page 6

Regards
Roger