Nifty1 Scavenger Hunt.... Everyone Welcome To Join In

[Nifty1]

Ok, something odd going on (if you have looked at the 1911 census entry, you will know why I picked up on this marriage!).

In 1904, at the parish church of Emmanuel in Paddington, Richard Redrup (38, bachelor) married Mary Ethel Tomkins (38, widow). 

Both residing at 89 Watterton Road

Groom's father was Thomas Redrup, baker, deceased
Bride's father was George James Russel, farmer, deceased

Witnesses: Michael Mark Coleman and Ethel Elizabeth Green 

[Nifty1]

Austin in a corporal at the army, and in 1901 Austin and Mary are at the garrison in Colchester with 11 yr old daugher Elizabeth, bn in Stoke Poges. RG13; Piece: 1707; Folio: 127; Page: 24

Who is Austin? I have located  Kirtland family photo of a corporal that is proving dificult to identify.

[Nifty1]

It looks as if the marriage to Richard Redrup was bigamous - certainly on his side becase I think that he was married already to an Ada, who doesn't appear to die until 1940!

There is a marriage between Mary Ethel Green and Austin Herbert Tomkins in Wolverhampton 1900, and a death of Austin Herbert Tomkins in Windsor in 1904 (2c 314)

It might be worth re-reading through this thread again - during scavenger hunts, loads of information comes in which doesn't always seem to flow, but on another look you might start seeing how you family fits together.  Also, there is no point looking for answers that you already have 

I have read this thread many times and more and more seems to be making sense. My maternal great grandmother was married three times. Before I go down any official certificate route I want to try family search offer that is on this weekend http://www.findmypast.co.uk/freeweekend  and search newspapers. Has anybody any idea which papers may carry any information on this bigamy?

[Nifty1]

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[Nifty1]

I am posting this question on the Scavenge Hunt as it may facilitate certain refs that may assist anyone in the quest.

I am trying to discover the movements of my my grandfather Elias Marsh's younger brother  Joseph who is said by a family relation to have walked to Oxford possibly in the 1930s and if he stayed there for any length of time (until at least 1942/3). I think that he was Joseph Marsh . b. Sep 1901 Houghton le Spring  Co. Durham.
The reason that I want to know as much as possible about Joseph is because my late father Ramsay Marsh (b 1925) applied to join the RAF at Oxford in 1942. 

I want to know what he was doing before he  began his service in the spring of 1943 at the ACRC in London and after some months of going through further training in England went to Canada to train as a pilot. According to his RAF record his former occupation was given as Lorry Driver. In 1939 List  his father was living near Slough, I do not think that  Ramsay was recorded with living with him.

I think that he was either still living in Co Durham, or, he may have been staying with his uncle Joseph, that is, if he did in fact walk or travel to Oxford and stayed there.


I notice that there was a birth of a Joseph (who might be a his son) in 1922

Marsh   Joseph W   Broom Durham 10a  671

And also a Joseph Marsh divorce about 1935 but I am afraid that I have lost the page and cannot retrieve it'
and

Deaths MAR 1967 Joseph Marsh 61, Dudly, 9b 240 and
June, 1967. Joseph Marsh 63, Dudley 9b 172.

I would be very grateful if any one can provide help or information

[Mowsehowse]

A couple of observations for background information Nifty1......

In the early pages of this thread, you asked why the name "Lily" was SO popular?
  I would suggest it may have been due to the fame of the affair of a very beautiful actress, known as the Jersey Lily with Edward, Prince of Wales from 1877 to 1880.  It seems that although he was married with 6 children at the time, she became his "semi-official" mistress, and he even had her presented to HMQ Victoria. 

Also, you mention evidence of prostitution in Windsor, "before it became gentrified"......
Having delved into many aspects of social history in the UK, it seems to me that many of the "Gentry", who had plenty of spare money continually indulged in excesses, and I have read there was a published manual grading the standards of available brothels and prostitutes in London. 
I would imagine that, for some, the proximity of Windsor to London possibly allowed profligacy to escape gossip.

[Nifty1]

Please can anyone provide additional info i.e. parents, occupation  or  address about Harriet Kirtland b 1812 d. 1864 Faringdon

[StevieSteve]

Harriet Beal (father Anthony deceased) m George Kirtland at Witney 19 May 1850 and they're on the Census at Faringdon in 1861

[Nifty1]

Thanks for that Stevie. Is there any sign of George's occupation? I must say, I think it was very inconsiderate of our forebearers to give all there children the same names through the Generations