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No christian name on marriage record? Completed.
« on: Tuesday 15 May 12 12:40 BST (UK) »
Hello all,

I'm searching for a marriage between Christopher Reed and Ann(e) ? in the Kirk Ella/Cottingam area.

The IGI has coverage of both for the dates I'm looking for (early 1800's) - but the only one I could find was an un-named "Read" marrying Ann Bursell, in 1810.

Christopher and Ann(e) had three children in Kirk Ella, between 1810 and 1816, including Jane, who is my direct ancestor. 

Jane's marriage certificate of 1849, shows her father, Christopher, as deceased.

Anyone any ideas how I can go forwards (or should I say backwards) with this?

Thanks for reading,
Yorkslass



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Re: No christian name on marriage record?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 May 12 13:53 BST (UK) »
was the IGI record submitted (therefore dodgy) or a trnascript from the registers?

if it was a transcript the missing name could either because it wasnt there in the original -in which case you are truly stuck --or possible hard to read in the original --in which case if you are able to view an actual image of of the register you might be able to get some sort of name.
Contact the Record Office to see if they can either read it or do a copy of it for you
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Re: No christian name on marriage record? Completed.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 May 12 14:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your reply Marmalady.

I've just been doing a bit more searching, and in fact the marriage appears on Family Search with the lady's name as Ann Borsell, and shows she married a James Reed.... so not mine.

So I guess I'd better mark this completed and start a new thread.

Thanks again,
Yorkslass
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Re: No christian name on marriage record?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 May 12 15:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Yorkshire

I had a look for you and there is a Christopher and Ann who have children before 1810.
They start having children at Cottingham in 1802 and then move to Kirk Ella in 1810
These two places are only 2 miles apart so not far for them to move maybe for work?
Unfortunately, I cannot find a marriage for them around 1801.
Here are the children born earlier
Charles Reed christened 2nd August 1802 Cottingham
Mary Reed                         2nd August 1804   "
William Reed                     3rd February 1807
George Reed                     16th October 1808  "
Mary Reed                         5th October 1810   Kirk Ella
Jane Reed                          19th August 1813    "    "
Thomas Reed                     15th July 1816         "    "
All children have the parents Christopher and Ann.

It was rare for them just to have 3 children so maybe this 7 is the
same couple??

regards Sandymc
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Re: No christian name on marriage record? Completed.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 May 12 18:30 BST (UK) »
Hello Sandymc,

Thanks for your time with this - it's much appreciated.

It looks very possible that all those children were from the same family.  Reed doesn't seem to be a very common name in those parts at that time.

I'm wondering whether Christopher and Ann married in Hull - or married at all ...

The odd thing is, I can't find any of those children in censuses - except for my "own" Jane Reed, who married Thomas Jordan, and gives her place of birth as Kirkella in the censuses I've found her.  Another mystery family.

Thanks again,
Yorkslass
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Re: No christian name on marriage record? Completed.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 10:04 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I know you have finished this now but one thing I found curious is why one of the children
wasnt called Christopher.  So I looked for a lad for them and found the following
Christopher Reed born 19th October 1799 and christened at Roos 28th November 1799.
Roos is 8 miles East of  Hedon, and is 15 miles from Cottingham.
This Christopher and Ann Reed seem to be only ones of that name and age in the East Yorkshire
area around Hull and district.  The only other Christophers and Anns in the North of the
Country are two others, one pair in Durham and another in Liverpool. 
So maybe they did get married in the Hull area but where that marriage is I cannot find it.

It hopefully will be resolved eventually I think.  More information is coming on line all
of the time so maybe when it is you might find their marriage

regards Sandymc   
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Re: No christian name on marriage record? Completed.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 11:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you Sandymc,

It's good of you to keep looking.  Perhaps I shouldn't have closed this topic.
I too thought it odd that there was no Christopher the younger.

It's a definite possibility, the one you found.  Thank you.

The 1841 census shows a Christopher and Ann Reed living in the Charter House Hospital in Hull, but I don't think they can be "mine".  This man, born about 1776 was a former Waterman. He's still there in 1851.

There's another Christopher, born 1766, who could be mine - more likely! - in the Sculcoates Union Workhouse in Hull, a former ag lab.

Thanks again,
Best wishes,
Yorkslass

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