glossop and jerrison families

[keithgizmo]

G'day all,
New to chat rooms, so pls bear with me.
I am researching family history, with limited information, as many people do, but here goes.
My great great grandfather was:
william glossop
believe he was a soldier
he had at least 1 child, my great grandfather charles glossop, maybe born Isle of Wight about 1804,
married elizabeth jerrison.

that is all we know.
I have tracked a William Glossop, christened 6 aug 1786 in Ashover Derbyshire, parents Richard & Dorothy
also a Elizabeth Jerrison christened 13 feb 1785 in Ashover Derbyshire, father James.

These are the only 2 events I can match.

I need to now know how to find more info on these 2 individuals, to see if they are actually my relatives.
Being of limited means I am looking for free help first, before I have to turn to the geneology websites.
Any suggestions? I could not find an historical society or similar in ashover.

[Derbysderek]

Hi keith..don't start paying for things!..there is a wealth of onformation out there and loads of people willing to help you find it.
I am a very experienced Derbyshire specialist with many many records and databases.....so stick around for a while and let's see what we can find.

I do have the Ashover Parish records..and i can confirm the baptism 1.02.1785 of Elizabeth Jerrison daughter of James and Lydia..one of four children.

William Glossop was not baptised at Ashover..but at Dethick.close by..and yes he was the son of Richard and Dorothy baptised 06.08.1786

The confusion is caused by the fact that Dethick is the parish of Dethick and Holloway..and part of Holloway is in the parish of Ashover......local knowledge is useful..

Now we have to start working......your message is not clear........who married Elizabeth Jerrison??? William or Charles?.according to my initial searches..neither did.

I can't find a Charles Glossop 1804 isle of Wight.......but I have found Charles Glossop 1804 Chesterfield who married Ann Goodlad at Chesterfield 30.11.1828.

Since he is your ancestor..you must have his children...their name will enable me to home in on the right person.

Again..at this moment i cannot find a marriage for William Glossop.....but I will!

any info you have...even if apparently irrelevant....I'll look at........if anyone can find them I can!!

Derek.

[KGarrad]

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[Derbysderek]

OK..have looked further..............try this:-

CHARLES GLOSSOP born 28.09.1804..baptised 21.10.1804  Sheffield Cathedral..son of WILLIAM GLOSSP and MARY nee GEE..who married in the same Church 11.12.1803..............you may not be aware that Sheffield and Chesterfield are very close..as is Dronfield where Charles Glossop..a charles Glossop ! born 1804 married Ann Goodlad.

Derek.

[Derbysderek]

........and again........if CHARLES GLOSSOP is your great grandfather.....and if i have the right family.....the children of Charles and Ann should include your grandfather or grandmother from the list below.... (if not. then we have to start again)

William 1831..Emma 1833...Byron 1835..Charles 1837..Priscilla 1839....Ellen 1842..Mary 1850..Eliza 1852..Arthur 1855..........

Whoever he was, this particular charles Glossop was certainly prolific...and therefore very easy to either confirm or to reject as your GGGrandfather.

Derek.

[keithgizmo]

 
Wow, thank you Derek and kgarrad. Very thoughtful of you to go to so much trouble. I had discovered freegen etc, tks, but it did not yield what I needed. Familysearch has been very helpful.
Derek,
the charles and ann line isn't correct.
Here is what we know:
Arthur Ernest Leslie Glossop b 26/4/1887 (we believe) in Oakleigh Australia (my grandfather). He is the youngest of 12 children born to Charles Glossop b 1804? Isle of Wight married 9/4/1888 in Oakleigh Australia, died 30/11/1891 in Oakleigh Australia and Janet Glossop nee Irvine (also known as Jessie) b. 18/10/1839? stromness, orkney scotland, died Bendigo Australia 15/6/1896.
The children are:
Mary 1859, william 1862,rebecca 1865, john robert 1867, elisabeth 1869, charles 1871, david 1874, margaret 1876, rose 1878 isabella and james b 1881 and arther b 1887?
 I have traced Janet's family back 2 generations in Stromness. She came to Australia aboard the Negotiator in 1858 with her mother Mary Morrison 5 siblings. I can find no record of Charles arrival in Australia. Janet was Charles 3rd wife (Mary Mahan, from County Cavan Ireland was 2nd - no children, and Rebecca Jones was 1st -no children (maybe infant died at birth). The 1st of Janets children (Mary) was fathered by Thomas Smith, the next 12 to Charles while he was still married to Mary Glossop (Mahan). He married Janet after Mary died.
Charles death record in 1891 says he was 87 yo ,shows his father as William Glossop , soldier and Elizabeth Glossop formerly Jerrison, and says he was born Isle of Wight.. Also list his children's names and ages. It says he came to Tasmania date unknown. Charles and Janets marriage certificate also says he was born Isle of Wight.
I have yet to visit his grave, perhaps his headstone, if he has one shows DOB.  This has always been a stumbling block.
As to William and Elizabeth, we have nothing to go on. The only reason I think the 2 people baptised in Dethick/Ashover may be my relies is the similarity of christening dates, locations and the rarity of the surname Jerrison. I also, could find no marriage records for them. I had some help from a volunteer on Isle of Wight, but it turned up nothing.

Once again, thanks for your interest. Let me know if there is some way I can return the favour
regards
keith
I will have to establish more details about them some other way.

[Milliepede]

There is a Charles Glossop transported to Van Diemans Land (is that Tasmania?) 22 Nov 1843.
Date of conviction Old Bailey 18 Sep 1843.  The vessel was called Marion.

[Milliepede]

To confirm the children baptised Australia to Charles Glossop and Jane Irvine.

Charles 1 Dec 1875
David 1 Dec 1875
John Robert 1 Dec 1875
William 1 Dec 1875
Elizabeth 1 Dec 1875
Rebecca 1 Dec 1875

Margaret Jane 17 Oct 1878
Rosa 17 Oct 1878

[Milliepede]

You say his mother was Elizabeth Jerrison, is it a coincidence that a Charles Jerrison was also transported to VDLand in 1828?  Could this be a relative of hers or just a coincidence