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Burtenshaws and Wells census look up Kent and London 1861
« on: Saturday 21 May 05 20:08 BST (UK) »
Please can anyone help me get any more information on the Burtenshaw family who in 1871 were living in Henry Street, St. Pauls, Deptford,  William 28, Lucy 30, Jane 10, Walter 5, Edward 4, George 2, William7.
Also the Wells family who in 1871 were living at Ashford Place, Camberwell,  Joseph 23, Mary Ann 25, Louisa Marion 3, Mary Ann Susan 1.  Any information would be gratefully received, as I am really not very good at this!!  ::)  ???
Thanks in anticipation
Celia

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Re: Burtenshaws and Wells census look up Kent and London 1861
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 May 05 20:11 BST (UK) »
Ok Cecilia.

I assume that the ages you give are their ages in 1871?

Where were the parents born?

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Re: Burtenshaws and Wells census look up Kent and London 1861
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 May 05 20:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Casalguidi,
You are right that was their ages in 1871, I am not too sure where their parents were born, but I believe the Wells family were from Margate, but I don't know when.  I have no idea at all about the Burtenshaws, but the info I have from the other census  suggests they were all in the Deptford area of London. Sorry I am such a dimwit, but all the family that could have helped are long dead, and they weren't into reminiscing much when they were alive!!
Thanks for your prompt reply too.
Cheers Celia


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Re: Burtenshaws and Wells census look up Kent and London 1861
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 May 05 20:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Celia

The 1871 (and any other) census will tell you where they were born (we will need to know this to find them) ie.

William BURTENSHAW 28 shoemaker b.Ashford
Lucy 30 b.Croydon Sry
Henry COVILLE/CORILLE? son in law 12 b.Croydon
Jane BURTENSHAW dau 10 b.Croydon

RG10/741 folio 108 page 28

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Re: Burtenshaws and Wells census look up Kent and London 1861
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 May 05 21:09 BST (UK) »
And to get us started on the WELLSs .................

1871

Joseph WELLS 26 artist in fireworks b.Margate
Mary Ann 25 b.Fleet Street, City of London

RG10/723 folio 15 page 23

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Re: Burtenshaws and Wells census look up Kent and London 1861
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 May 05 21:12 BST (UK) »
A possible  ???

1861

Joseph WELLS servant 16 coal porter b.Margate in the household of James ASHBY coal dealer at 2 South Island Place, Lambeth, Surrey

Rg9/361 folio 59 page 33

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Re: Burtenshaws and Wells census look up Kent and London 1861
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 May 05 22:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Casalguidi
Yes Joseph was married to Marry Ann, and it was he who started the Joseph Wells firework company.  He was my Great Grandfather.  My Gt  Grandfather could well have been a servant to a coal dealer, he then became a lighterman on the Thames before he stated the family business.  My GT GT Grandfather was born in 1861, married a Susan Tucker in 1844. I think he was born in Margate too.
The Burtenshaws are more difficult for some reason, and I had thought with a strange name it might have been easier, mind you there have been some odd spellings of the name!!
Thanks for your help, it confirms a few things I was unsure about.
You are a star!
Cheers
Celia

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Re: Burtenshaws and Wells census look up Kent and London 1861
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 May 05 05:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Celia

I didn't manage to find the BURTENSHAWs in 1861.  Looking at the 1871 they could have been in Croydon but I didn't see them - perhaps somebody else will have more luck.

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Re: Burtenshaws and Wells census look up Kent and London 1861
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 May 05 13:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Casalguidi,
In the 1871 census, they were living at 2, Henry Street, St. Pauls, Deptford.  No trace of them before that, and no idea where they might have been.  I know the spelling could have been wrong, it still is to this day!!  Thanks anyway
Cheers
Celia