Author Topic: Help date of Victorian photo  (Read 2706 times)

Offline Jane Eden

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,104
    • View Profile
Help date of Victorian photo
« on: Saturday 21 May 05 22:47 BST (UK) »
I have been sorting old photos all evening and came across this stern looking woman. Can you experts date her?

Jane
Notts: Burrows, Comery, Foster, Beeson.
Derbys: Burrows, Comery, Smith  Lincs: King. 

Information contained within Census Lookups is Crown Copyright:  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline DebbieDee

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 729
  • Hepzibah Annie Burge 1887-1969
    • View Profile
Re: Help date of Victorian photo
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 May 05 00:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Jane,

Looking at this site http://www.cartes.fsnet.co.uk/date/main.htm

the headdress seems more 1870s but I would say the dress was more early 1880s.

Debbie  ;)

Offline Jane Eden

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,104
    • View Profile
Re: Help date of Victorian photo
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 May 05 08:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks

Jane
Notts: Burrows, Comery, Foster, Beeson.
Derbys: Burrows, Comery, Smith  Lincs: King. 

Information contained within Census Lookups is Crown Copyright:  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline uk2003

  • --
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,115
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help date of Victorian photo
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 May 05 19:45 BST (UK) »
Hi

You could try this site http://www.rogerco.freeserve.co.uk/ dont know if it will help

Regards
Ken
Harris - Millington - Hilton - Capper - Smith - Jones


Offline uk2003

  • --
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,115
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help date of Victorian photo
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 May 05 11:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Jane

Hope you dont mind me working on the photo.

Regards
Ken
Harris - Millington - Hilton - Capper - Smith - Jones

Offline Jane Eden

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,104
    • View Profile
Re: Help date of Victorian photo
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 May 05 18:06 BST (UK) »
 :)

Ken

Mind! I am delighted

Jane
Notts: Burrows, Comery, Foster, Beeson.
Derbys: Burrows, Comery, Smith  Lincs: King. 

Information contained within Census Lookups is Crown Copyright:  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline percy

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 99
  • Be Just and Fear Not
    • View Profile
Re: Help date of Victorian photo
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 May 05 13:16 BST (UK) »

Hi Jane.

What makes you think she is old ?  She doesn't look that old to me. Perhaps 40ish ?

I think the date is more like 1890.   The head covering is very similar to that shown in  photographs of Florence Nightingale and Queen Victoria in their old age --- that is, 1890ish.

The costume's 'upper-body' is consistent with that, and I think that possibly the (earlier-seeming) fullness of the 'skirt' may have more to do with the stoutness of the lady and her being seated.

regards,  PERCY
HEWITT :  ROSA : (FULLER)SANDYS  :

Offline Andy_T

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 239
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help date of Victorian photo
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 February 19 06:25 GMT (UK) »
The "Get-Up" the lady wore, reminds me of pictures of Queen Victoria at the end of 19th Century / turn of the 20th century.

The faded name G. Schofield; is that the stern looking lady's name in the photo or the photographer's name?
If you can decipher the street address beginning with letter "M" you could check through Kelly's Trade Directories for a portrait photographer in business in 1880's & 1890's and check out the trades and professions in the Nottingham street in the written on the photo (it's blurred and smudged but you may be able to read the original street address written on the photo with a magnifying glass).

I checked Kelly's Nottingham trades directory for 1904 and no photographer in a street beginning with the letter "M' and no photography shop just a litho artist, Douglas Needham on Maples Street.
So it looks like this photo was taken before 1904.
You would need to have many Kelly Directories in consecutive years, say between 1880 - 1900 and from dates the photographer was in business you can come up with a date range that the photo was taken.
BTW, some old photos on my Mum's side of the family were taken at Staffordshire photographer's shop and they are all dressed up like ladies and gents. I think the photographer would supply the clothes as I don't think they were all that posh. Costumes in photography shops may be years old and out of style to a follower of fashion.

Andy_T
Thurman, Coleman, Beck, Shaw

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,198
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help date of Victorian photo
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 February 19 09:29 GMT (UK) »

The faded name G. Schofield; is that the stern looking lady's name in the photo or the photographer's name?


It is the photographer’s name.

If the OP is still seeking answers after 14 years, searching the censuses for Schofield in Nottingham might be a quicker way to get an estimate of dates he worked.