Albert Edward Cooper

[Milliebert]

I did see the entry for Martha and Vera Westall.  Which just confused me more for a time!

[Captain2]

Ahh.. Alice Cooper is a widow aged 26 in the 1901 how sad.  She is working as a domestic servant in the household of William Baverstock - ref RG13/1925/F57 at 6 Sun Lane in Marlborough, Wiltshire

[Milliebert]

Hence the fact the children live with their Grandparents?!  That all makes so much sense! 

Thank you.

[Milliebert]

Showing my inexperience, but what does this: RG13/1925/F57 mean?  I'd like to see the record but don't know where to look.  Thank you!

[Captain2]

It means the registration district - RG13 - the page number - 1925 and the folio number - 57 which if you have a look at the 1901 census  you will see from the top of the page
Administrative County - Wiltshire
Civil Parish - St Peters & St Pauls, Marlborough
Ecclestical Parish - Marlborough St Peter & St Paul
Municipal Borough - Marlborough
When the census was enumerated it would have had a district reference RG13
the page for this particular entry can be found on 1925
and if you have look at the bottom of the page
'Public Record Office Reference' - RG13/1925' is written as their reference.
I'm not absolutely certain about 'folio -57' but would pressume that it also refers to this particular entry or perhaps a series of entries on this particular page? sorry I'm not sure ...

[Craclyn]

You are welcome. Remember that if you can't find what you expect then it often helps to widen the search, especially if you are close to county boundaries which may have moved over the years.

[davierj]

Re birth certificates, although different counties, Froxfield is in Hungerford district.

Dave

[Milliebert]

Yes.. I backtracked the grandparents Stephen & Elizabeth Stroud through the census and found the girls Martha, Rose & Alice.  In 1901 Martha is living with her parents with her daughter Vera (8m) and she is Martha Westall, wife of a serviceman - so that ruled her out and again, like you said Rose is too young, so I thought that would probably leave Alice..

Well done Cathy  

Forgive me, I am now confused!

Martha Westall, on the 1891 Census was a single woman, working as a servant.  She didn't live with the Strouds at that time.  So, if she was a single woman, she can't be their daughter, can she?  Or her name would have been Stroud?  So maybe there was no husband...

Also, I can't find a birth or death for William Cooper, Alice's maybe husband.  I've spent a couple of days on this now, have ordered certificates but have to wait now!

[Captain2]

Let's try and work out the family shall we...
1901 Census - RG13/1125/F196 Froxfield, Hungerford
Stephen Stroud. 57. Head. Agri. Lab. b. Froxfield, Wilts
Elizabeth Stroud. 58. Wife. b. Enborne, Berks
Stephen Stroud. 18. Son. Cattleman on Farm. b. Froxfield, Wilts
Leonard Stroud. 16. Son. Under Carter on Farm. b. Froxfield, Wilts
Bessie Cooper. 8. Grand-daughter . b. Froxfield, Wilts
Albert Cooper 2. Grand-son b. Froxfield, Wilts
Martha Westall. 31. Daughter. Husband in Active Service. b. Froxfield, Wilts
Vera Westall. 8.months. Grand-daughter b. Froxfield, Wilts

Martha married (free bmd) at Hungerford to Morris Westall in Dec 1899. Vol. 2c Page 598
So that is a different Martha Westall that you have found in 1891 census working as a domestic servant

Hope this helps