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Charles Beaumont or Charles Beaumont Jones ??
« on: Tuesday 12 June 12 03:45 BST (UK) »
Charles Beaumont appears in the UK Census.
1881 as 1yr old with parents William and Mary (possibly Carter) at 133 Henshaw St, Oldham.
1891 as 11yr old with parents William and Mary, at 12 Belmont St, Oldham.
1901 as 21yr old with parents William and Mary, at 12 Belmont St, Oldham.
1911 as 32yr old with wife Lily (Newboult) and 3 children.

However, it seems that the only matching records elsewhere report him as Charles Beaumont JONES.
e.g.
Births Sep 1879, Jones    Charles Beaumont        Oldham    8d   668
Marriages Dec 1901 Jones    Charles Beaumont        Oldham    8d   1101
Marriages Dec 1901 NEWBOULT    Lily         Oldham    8d   1101

There are several other records of his service and death in WW1, all using the surname Jones.
Is it possible to view his service record to confirm his parents  ???

Can anyone explain this apparent use of two surnames, or were there in fact two different persons that I'm getting mixed. ??? ???
I cannot find any further record of William Beamont either, so perhaps elsewhere he is recorded as Jones too  ???

John B
Barraclough, Barron, Hunter, Marsden, Pawson, Sowden, Street, Vowless,

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Re: Charles Beaumont or Charles Beaumont Jones ??
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 June 12 04:35 BST (UK) »
Charles Beaumont Jones ,mother Jones
birth registered Oldham above Town,Oldham
1879

Lancashire bmd,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Charles Beaumont or Charles Beaumont Jones ??
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 June 12 04:50 BST (UK) »
St Mary the Virgin Prestwich
12th of March 1882
Florence Martha Beaumont ,child of William and Mary
abode 133 Hereshaw Street Oldham
father iron works manager
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Charles Beaumont or Charles Beaumont Jones ??
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 June 12 08:12 BST (UK) »
1901
Charles B Jones and Lily Newboult
Oldham Registry Office or Registrar attended. LancsBMD

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Re: Charles Beaumont or Charles Beaumont Jones ??
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 June 12 08:16 BST (UK) »
1873
Mary Carter and William Beaumont
Oldham Registry Office or registrar attended.

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Re: Charles Beaumont or Charles Beaumont Jones ??
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 June 12 09:08 BST (UK) »
Is this the record you have seen?

Charles Beaumont Jones
Oldham
died 8 May 1915
France and Flanders
enlisted Royton
Private
King's Own(Lancaster Regiment)
2nd Battalion
Number 17351
Killed in Action
Ypres(Menim Gate) Memorial
Panel 12

There is a certificate on the www.cwgc.org website but unfortunately, it doesn't give the name of his wife or his address.

You should be able to get a copy of his service records and his next of kin should be recorded.
I am sure that someone on this site will point you in the right direction.

Heather


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Re: Charles Beaumont or Charles Beaumont Jones ??
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 June 12 10:00 BST (UK) »
His marriage cert might help, giving his father's name and occupation. 
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Re: Charles Beaumont or Charles Beaumont Jones ??
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 June 12 12:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your replies, Radcliff

I believe the daughter Florence Martha lived only one year, and does not help solve the riddle of Charles two surnames.

It is interesting to see the name Jones as mother of Charles.
Does this confirm that the parents of Charles Beaumont Jones were not William Beaumont and Mary Carter?

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Re: Charles Beaumont or Charles Beaumont Jones ??
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 June 12 12:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Heatherjulie,

Yes, that's one of the mentions of military service I had seen.
How could I get a copy of his service record which would show NOK?

John B
Barraclough, Barron, Hunter, Marsden, Pawson, Sowden, Street, Vowless,