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Offline carolmc

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172nd West Ham Regiment ww1
« on: Thursday 14 June 12 20:42 BST (UK) »
Hi

I think the 172nd was part of the Royal Field Artillery, but I don't understand how it all worked. I have searched the internet and found nothing. I have a soldier Frederick Charles Crocker and can see his attestation papers via Ancestery, then everything is a mystery. I can't find where the regiment went during or after ww1. fred died in 1940 unmarried.

I also have a photo, no name or date, but taken at a studio in Hong Kong, I believe it to be Frederick, but without knowing where he went during or after ww1 , I'm stuck.  he was a gunner.

Does anyone know anything about the 172nd West Ham Regiment and was it part of the Royal Field Artillery.

Any help really appreciated Carolmc

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Re: 172nd West Ham Regiment ww1
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 June 12 21:30 BST (UK) »
Hi
It sounds as though its 172nd Brigade Royal Field Artillery.
It was disbanded and reorganised in WW1.
172 Brigade, RFA was broken up between 13 and 31  January 1917

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Re: 172nd West Ham Regiment ww1
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 June 12 21:33 BST (UK) »
Your best source is the 'Long, long trail' website (sorry I cannot give the link).  On a quick look it seems that CLXXII Brigade was East Ham, and CLXXIII was West Ham.  Both were raised in early 1915 as part of the New Army.
If you browse that site, following options for Regiments, Royal Field Artillery, then brigades of the RFA, you will find the Divisions they served in .  Then you can look for the section on divisions which should give some idea of locations.
The Royal Artillery was the regiment in WW1, the units within it were then called brigades.
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Re: 172nd West Ham Regiment ww1
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 June 12 21:50 BST (UK) »
Ref his records he initially served in A Battery I have some more info:
If you go "backwards" instead of forwards you will see the records dont initially start at the front.There is a page of his postings ill crop it and put on here for you.
Typical Ancestry indexing!  :)

Went to C Battery 77th Brigade RFA on re-org

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Re: 172nd West Ham Regiment ww1
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 June 12 21:55 BST (UK) »
Cropped this so just the info you need is available. :)
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Blackburn (Castleford)
Sidwell(Ledsham)
Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

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Re: 172nd West Ham Regiment ww1
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 June 12 10:55 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thanks for all the help. I've looked at The Long Long Trail, it's an amazing site with so much info. and far more clearer to understand than anything else I've seen.  I'll be able to do so much more now and take another look at other ww1 soldiers in my tree.

regards carolmc

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Re: 172nd West Ham Regiment ww1
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 June 19 07:37 BST (UK) »
My family tree has a Frederick Charles Crocker, He was from the Lambeth area I believe. According to my records he joined up in 1915 although his service number is different from the one that mmm45 posted


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Re: 172nd West Ham Regiment ww1
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 June 19 13:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Wasp, I am 100% of my fred ch crocker on Crocker Tree Ancestry, is your Fred Ch Crocker on Ancestry? Does he match mine? Are George Crocker and Ann Sampson his parents? Any info you have might be useful? Does the photo mean anything to you? regrds carolmc

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Re: 172nd West Ham Regiment ww1
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 June 19 17:09 BST (UK) »
The photo is post war and L/21298 Gunner F C Crocker (the record shown above) was discharged in 1919 so if the photo is him, he must have re-joined at some time, he certainly didn't serve in Hong Kong in the Great War.  He lived in at 9 Clare Road Forest Gate when he joined in 1915 and was there in 1921 when his medals were sent to him.  His age in 1915 was given as 33.

Does this fit either?

The Wasp - What was the service number you have?

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