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Emily Goldswain and John Stevens
« on: Sunday 17 June 12 17:33 BST (UK) »
Hi

can anyone help me find the marriage of Emily Goldswain and John Stevens around 1881, they was living together in 1891 in camberwell, but emily is from great marlow

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Re: Emily Goldswain and John Stevens
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 June 12 17:50 BST (UK) »
Can you give the 1891 details please.
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Re: Emily Goldswain and John Stevens
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 June 12 18:29 BST (UK) »
Found them on latest census they say married 30 years but cant find a marriage.And Emily is a servant in Camberwell 1881 census and single.
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Emily Goldswain and John Stevens
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 June 12 18:59 BST (UK) »
They had their first child in 1882 so 1881/2 must be when they married. I know this is the correct couple as I have their names on a birth certificate

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Re: Emily Goldswain and John Stevens
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 June 12 19:07 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have also found the same information as Isobel, no marriage although I can see
Emily in the 1881 as a servant and she is aged 21. In the 1871 she is with her
parents Stephen and Grace and siblings.

Is there anything on the marriage certificate you want to know or is it just that
you want to see them married?  I have looked on my paid for sites, alot of Family trees
and non of those have her married.  Some of her family seem to move to Wales. They
could have lived as a married couple without having a marriage certificate so
it was possible in those days to "live over the brush" as they used to call it.
If they lived together for at least 30 years then in my mind they were married.

regards Sandymc 
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Re: Emily Goldswain and John Stevens
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 June 12 19:26 BST (UK) »
i am trying to find the parents of John Stevens, the marriage would have given clues.

thanks for your help

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Re: Emily Goldswain and John Stevens
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 March 13 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Every one,

Since this post i have not been able to trace the Stevens tree back any further.

Would anyone be able to help me break through this barrier?

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Re: Emily Goldswain and John Stevens
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 March 13 13:47 GMT (UK) »
What i Know of john with Emily:

1891  - 54 Ulverscrift Road, Camberwell, London

Head - John - 39 - Lancashire Whitby
Wife - Emily - 37 - Berkshire Great Marlow
Dau - Jane - 8 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Lydia- 6 - Dulwich, London
Son- John- 3 - Dulwich, London
Son- James- 1 - Dulwich, London

1901 - 54 Ulverscrift Road, Camberwell, London

Head - John - 49 - Liverpool
Wife - Emily - 47 - Berkshire Great Marlow
Dau - Lilly- 17 - Dulwich, London
Son- John- 13 - Dulwich, London
Son- James- 12 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Emily- 8 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Agnes- 6 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Grace Margaret - 4 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Ider - 2 - Dulwich, London

1911 - 144 Landcroft Road (Top Floor), Camberwell, London

Head - John - 60 - Liverpool
Wife - Emily - 57 - Berkshire Great Marlow
Son- John- 23 - Dulwich, London
Son- James- 21 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Emily- 18 - Dulwich, London
Son - Augustus -  16 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Grace - 13 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Ada- 11 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Elsie - 11 - Dulwich, London
Son - Harry - 9 - Dulwich, London
Dau - Frances- 7  - Dulwich, London
Son - Charles- 5 - Dulwich, London
Visitor - Julia Thompson - 21 - Dulwich, London

John and Emily married 30 years with 14 children 12 still alive.

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Re: Emily Goldswain and John Stevens
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 March 13 14:25 GMT (UK) »
John Stevens b.1851, Widnes, Lancashire.   Is in Camberwell in 1881 census, as a labourer.

First apparent child, Jane Stevens, born 1883 in Dulwich, (as you've mentioned).

There is a possible marriage.  J/F/M 1882.  Kensington.  Vol.1a. Page.72.

BUT......two grooms and one bride listed.  John STEVENS, John Russell & Jane Gray.

Considering John Stevens first child was Jane, there is a census entry in 1861, for a John STEVENS b1849. Liverpool, with a widowed mother.  Jane STEVENS, c.1815. Castletown, Isle of Man.

Is Whitty/Whitby in 1891 census........mistaken for Widnes, in the 1881 census. or vice versa. ???


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