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Creasey wedding
« on: Sunday 01 July 12 05:42 BST (UK) »
Hello

I'm in need of help.......in more ways than one........

I'm unable to find the wedding for

Alfred Edward Creasey
born 1874
in Billinghay, Lincolnshire.

what i do know is that his spouse is

Emily Frances
unfortunately i have no date of birth or surname

I'm posting here in the Hertfordshire pages because their son was born in the county. Using some basic logic here.

sons name is

Raymond Alfred Creasey
born 1907

I've checked FBMD site with no joy

any info would be fantastic

Darren
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Creasey_Hertfordshire

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Re: Creasey wedding
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 July 12 07:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Darren. Your post caught my eye as I am researching Creaseys from Billinghay. I haven't worked on that line for a long time, and I think the Creaseys I have are earlier generations than your Alfred, but there may be a connection somewhere.

I can't offer any specific help with Emily, but answers to a few questions might help find her:

Whereabouts in Hertfordshire was Raymond born?

Do you have the family through the censuses (or do you require help with lookups?)

I take it you got Emily Frances from Raymond's marriage certificate? Have you got Raymond's birth certificate which will give his mother's maiden name and hopefully help in the search for her marriage to Alfred?

Back to the Creaseys - if you can give me a bit of information about Alfred's ancestors I will check to see if there is a connection.  :)

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Re: Creasey wedding
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 July 12 09:37 BST (UK) »
Hi

May I crosscheck a couple of things?

Throughout the 1881/91/01/ census records
Alfred is consistently born "1879 Coningsby"
pointing to a possible Birth Reg 1879 Q1 Horncastle 7a 590
Have you taken his birth year from this death reg
1940 Q1 Hertford 3a 2230 (66y) ?


Alfred is still with his parents in 1901 thereby disproving a marriage earlier.

Emily F born "Brighton 1877" ?


Have you got any of the certificates?


Ray
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Re: Creasey wedding
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 July 12 11:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruskie & Ray

Sorry for delay in replying and thanks for† taking the time to reply

I'll try to answer the questions as written......here goes,

On the Freebmb site it states Raymond Alfred Creasey as being born in Hertford 3a 765.

I have the 1911 census where the family are stated to be living at 41 St. Andrews St. Hertford.

From this Census record i have taken the following details
*Emily Francis rough birth date of 1900
*Her birth place being Brighton, Sussex ....... oops does help if i read this things completely.

Ray
You know some times i don't know if its me but on my Family Tree on the Laptop i have Alfreds birth place as being Billinghay but all my paper work do indeed state Coningsby :-[,
but,
I have a source stating he was christened on 5th July in Billinghay. Don't if I'm right but i believe (google maps anyway) that these to villages/towns are approximately 5 miles apart. I haven't checked but is there C of E churches in both villages or does one have a Catholic or Presbytian Church as this could also be another reason for being born in one village and christened in another or that the just moved :-[
the Birth Reg i have is 1874 Horncastle 7a 565

Regarding to certificates I have the 1911 Census, but, the majority of my information is being gathered from Familysearch and fbmb.

Ruskie
The Creasey line that I have goes like this
Raymond Alfred Creasey b1903_Hertford
Alfred Edward Creasey b1874_Coningsby
Abraham Creasey b1848
Abraham Creasey b1802_Billinghay_ married to Mary Ann Dowling
Abraham Creasey b1773_Billinghay_married to Hepzibah Pinion

Does this link up with your Creasey line

Darren

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Re: Creasey wedding
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 July 12 12:44 BST (UK) »
Hello Darren,

Yes, I believe our Creaseys do connect.  :) I think your Abraham who married Hepzibah is a brother to the Robert  that I am tracing. Robert was b1763 Billinghay and married Mary Wright. I have John Creasey and Elizabeth Swan as the parents of Abraham (b1775?) and Robert. Does this tally with your findings? I have eight children for Abraham and Hepzibah, but I have no further information apart from their names.

I have this Creasey line going back to c 1580. As I said it has been a very long time since I did any work on this family so I am very rusty. I must tell you that I did get some of this information from another Creasey researcher, however I had traced much of the family prior to my contact with her and our findings tallied.

I got a lot of my information some years ago from FreeREG which is covers Billinghay and the Creaseys very well.

Let me know if you would like to compare more notes.

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Re: Creasey wedding
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 July 12 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hi

So, there is a "valid" choice of 2 birth regs for Alfred

1) Alfred Edward 1874 7a 565 agrees birth reg name & death reg
2) Alfred             1879 7a 590 agrees with 4xcensus

My favourite at moment is (2).
Sole reason? He gave the details for (2), he didn't give details for (1).

Time to digest . . . . .  ?

Ray
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Re: Creasey wedding
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 July 12 18:10 BST (UK) »

Alfred is still with his parents in 1901 thereby disproving a marriage earlier.


I'm a little confused by this - surely this must be the couple in 1901?

1901 census: RG13/1141/34/8

New Road, Bradfield, Berks


Alfred E. CREASEY Head M 28 Butler- domestic Lincs Coningsby
Emily F. do Wife M 30 Sussex Brighton
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Creasey wedding
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 July 12 18:20 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Emily?

Death, Sep qtr 1952

Emily F. CREASEY aged 81

Edmonton 5e 249
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Creasey wedding
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 07:22 BST (UK) »
Hi (avm228)

"I'm a little confused"

So was I, which is why I asked.
The other Alfred kept getting in my way.
Looks like you sorted it tho.


R
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