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Re: Norway: Ole Oleson Norby
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 00:39 BST (UK) »

I can trace with certainty back through Albert Norby, Son of Ole O. Norby and Berthe Augusta Brandvold (she often went by her middle name)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XJ8K-1PY

The rest if it is through message board posts on Ancestry.com
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.iowa.counties.clay/521.4.1.1.1/mb.ashx
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.iowa.counties.clay/521.2.2/mb.ashx

I have tried to reach this Steve Norby but his last posts on Ancestry are two years ago and he has yet to reply to me.

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Re: Norway: Ole Oleson Norby
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 00:49 BST (UK) »
I'm having a hard time sorting out the names and how they connect but is this something?

http://slektbase.elsrud.com/people/p00000zf.htm#I3540

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Re: Norway: Ole Oleson Norby
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 08:07 BST (UK) »

http://slektbase.elsrud.com/people/p00000zf.htm#I3540

This is a Kari Olsdatter born on Lindelien much earlier to a different generation and not necessarily a related family and probably not worth researching. You probably need to find out more in the US for example civil war records, if he was reputed to have fought there. You may need to look at original documents rather than use purely transcribed sources.


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Re: Norway: Ole Oleson Norby
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 23:18 BST (UK) »
I've found Tharan's emigration record in the parish register and she does not appear to be with any of her family when she leaves. I've looked until 1870 to see if any of the rest of the family are recorded as leaving but I've not found them. Some of the records are all over the place, I might have missed them or they may have left and not been recorded.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1112&idx_id=1112&uid=ny&idx_side=-424

Tharan is number 26

It may make more sense if they came after she married and used her married name to help the immigration process???


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Re: Norway: Ole Oleson Norby
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 12 July 12 00:55 BST (UK) »
Taran’s confirmation no 10. Says place of birth jubraaten. She was confirmed in 1854
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8537&idx_id=8537&uid=ny&idx_side=-260


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Re: Norway: Ole Oleson Norby
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 July 12 01:13 BST (UK) »
Here is Ole Olsen's death aged 45 in 1850 (13 March, buried 21 March). It's no. 41
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8537&idx_id=8537&uid=ny&idx_side=-346

That would make him born around 1805.  I've not looked for his birth yet. However I guessed that as Anne Olsdatter named her eldest daughter Taran, it might be the name of her mother. There is a Anne Olsdatter born in 1809 baptised 14 October to parents Ole Olsen and Taran Andersdatter on what looks like the same farm as her daughter was later born on: Lindelien. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8526&idx_id=8526&uid=ny&idx_side=-137

Taran Andersdatter can be found here in 1801 census
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7&filnamn=f1801&gardpostnr=15640&personpostnr=252175&merk=252175#ovre

You might want to try a Norwegian site to find out how some of the smaller farms are related to the big ones that are named in the censuses.

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Re: Norway: Ole Oleson Norby
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 14 July 12 00:26 BST (UK) »
Finally found Ole Olsen and Anne Olsdatter's marriage!
They married in Sør-Aurdal 18 September 1837
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=f60540&gardpostnr=489&merk=489#ovre
She appears to be 25 and he is 23. However it is definitely the right couple because he uses the farm name juvbraaten and it says he is from Vig which is in Norderhov district (now Ringerike).

Not sure if she was working at the farm she was living at the time of her marriage or born there, but still suspect that she was from Norderhov also.


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Re: Norway: Ole Oleson Norby
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 14 July 12 00:27 BST (UK) »
How awesome!!! Thank you!!!

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Re: Norway: Ole Oleson Norby
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 14 July 12 01:19 BST (UK) »
That is where the Fonshuseie that you found earlier in your notes comes from. Although it is probably Tronshuseie I'm off to bed now, but will send you a link that's useful for locating some of the farms.

Firstly the map link
http://kart.statkart.no/adaptive2/default.aspx?gui=1&lang=2
In the pull down box for area look for Buskerud and then Ringerike.  The family are in the Nes area of the Ådal valley which is the northern tip of the district. If you pull Nes to the centre of the map and magnify it up stage by stage to about a magnification of 1 in 50 000 or higher you can see a river to the west called the Urula. You can see some farm names.

Unfortunately not all the farms that are named in the census are now used so what I do is take a farm of interest, often from the 1865 census and look at the neighbouring farms on the census and see if I can find any of the neighbouring farms are on the map.

Here is the link for Juvbraaten farm in 1865 http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=3&filnamn=f60614&gardpostnr=71&merk=71#ovre It is unoccupied.  If you click on the links for farms before it and after it you will get neighbouring farms. Interestingly there are several Lindelien farms nearby, but can't see these on the map either. (As there are many smallholdings within a farm and have the same name in the census it might explain why you have so many different people and families over time in that link you sent me - I didn't realise at first how many names there were)

However Fossholm, Steffensrud and Stubbmoen are. I can see them all on 1in 6250. You can also see that the border with the Oppland region is only a few km away. You can also click on a box to give you a satellite version

If you go onto a Norwegian forum such as DIS
http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/index.php?language=engelsk
or the users forum at the digital archives
http://arkivverket.no/eng/content/view/full/629 you should be able to find someone who can locate the farms more accurately and may look up in the bygdebooks to give more information about the farms. You have to register for both, but you can use English, just remember to make sure you give what you know.

By the way, I haven't found a confirmation for Ole so I guess he went fairly soon after Taran as he should have been confirmed in1857 at the earliest, but Taran was confirmed quite late. It may be because of how remote the area was where they lived.