Susan Jane Jess - Scotland or Ireland?

[JulesT]

I have the marriage certificate for my great grandmother Susan Jane Jess, aged 21 and Cornelius Kennedy, aged 29.  The marriage took place on 27th April 1906, Parish of Cambusnethan, County of Lanark.

Susan Jane's parents are Thomas Jess,  farm labourer, deceased and  Mary Jess, M.S. Craig, deceased.

Cornelius Kennedy was born in Antrim, Northern Ireland. 

The only record which appears on searches of Ancestry and Family Search is a BMD -  Susan Jane Jess, Jul, Aug, Sept 1883, Sligo, Ireland

I know no other details of Susan before her marriage.  I am positive I have the correct parents for her as her death certificate has same information as the marriage certificate (unless they were both wrong!)

Any help would be much appreciated.

Jules

[ev]

Hi ,

Can't see a birth for Susan or a marriage for parents in Scotland

The 1911 Census has CORNLIUS Kennedy age 34 & Susan Kennedy age 25 in Cambusnethan Lanark
Just looking at the index(Scotlandspeople)

Can't see a Susan Jess on the 1901 Census
Looks like you'll have to view the 1911 Census to find out 

ev

[Lodger]

Hi Jules,

Just a snippet from the burial records of Cambusnethan cemetery.

CORNELIUS KENNEDY. Wishaw, aged 1 day.
Parents - Cornelius Kennedy & Susan Jane Jess.
Buried in common ground on 12th June 1907.

There is also a record of a stillbirth burial in 1909 and the parents were Thomas Jess & Margaret McKenzie. I wondered if this Thomas was perhaps the brother of Susan Jane? However, in the same grave is Elizabeth Jess, maiden surname Carswell, who died aged 71 in 1914. So she would most probably have been the mother of this Thomas.

Lodger.

[Lodger]

No sign of either of them in the 1901 Irish census.

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

[JulesT]

Thanks folks!

I previously did a search on Scotland's People for Cornelius and Susan in 1911 and didn't get a result - I will go and search that again.

The Cornelius Kennedy, 1 day old was their first born child.  I have the death certificate for him but didn't know he was buried in common ground - thanks Lodger.

The 1901 census for Scotland shows an Elizabeth Jess with a son Thomas in Newmains but as yet I don't know if they are connected to my Jess's.

Jules

[JulesT]

Hmm...the 1911 census is for New Monkland South.

Ann Kennedy, Head, 69, born Ireland
Arthur, son, Wid, 32, born Carnwath
Cornelius, son, single, 31, born Carnwath
Eliz, grandaughter, single, 16, born New Monkland.

My Cornelius did have a sister Annie but she was born in 1860, Carnmoney, Ireland which would make her around 51 in 1911. 

I can't get any other search result for the 1911 census for Cornelius and Susan Kennedy.  I know for sure they were living in Kirk Road, Wishaw in 1907 & 1908 when their first and second children were born as I have just viewed the images.  1910 still shows them living in Cambusnethan/Lanark area when their next son was born - I viewed the index but don't have enough credits to view the actual certificate at the moment.  I'll buy more credits later.

I can't be sure they moved from the area around the 1911 census - I know they were still in the area when they died in the 40's.

[ev]

Sorry , should have made it clearer , the one I found had the spelling as CORNLIUS(with out the E)
Kennedy , age 34 , second person forename Susan

ev

[JulesT]

Sorry , should have made it clearer , the one I found had the spelling as CORNLIUS(with out the E)
Kennedy , age 34 , second person forename Susan

ev

Lol, I only found the above by removing Susan from the search field.  I've just checked the record again and the one in New Monklands definitely has the "e" - I guess Susan's family will remain elusive for a while longer

edited to add: just had a "doh" moment and realised you'd actually found them in Cambs/Lanark - went back and searched exactly as you did and it has brought it up - I defnintely need to go buy more credits now!

Lodger - do you know if all stillbirths were buried (sorry if this seems like a really dumb question?)  My grandmother's first child was stillborn and would possibly be buried in Cambusnethan too.

[sancti]

1901 census has a Cornelius Kennedy boarding in Cambusnethan occ Gas maker