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The case of Mary BATE
« on: Wednesday 18 July 12 16:14 BST (UK) »
Mary Stockton died in Warrington, Lancashire aged 61 on 18th June 1863 wife of Thomas, a wood sawyer

She married Thomas in 1843 at the Parish Church in Runcorn - listed as Mary Bate (widow) father as James Bate (labourer)

In the 1851 census she is listed as born in Sunderland but in 1861 listed as born in Warrington, Lancashire

I have just possibly found her as Mary Fidler aged 39 in 1841 census of Warrington, Lancashire - her birth listed as not in the county of Lancashire - which confirms the possible marriage I found of her in Lymm, Cheshire to John Fiddler in 1826

is anyone researching the BATE clan of Sunderland and can they pin point her baptism?

thank you

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Re: The case of Mary BATE
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 July 12 16:54 BST (UK) »
It might be a coincidence, but in the 1861 Census an Elizabeth Bate, widow aged 70, born in Warrington, is living next door to Thomas and Mary Stockton.

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Re: The case of Mary BATE
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 July 12 17:22 BST (UK) »
also

Sarah STOCKTON (nee BATE) 1848 - 1910
(daughter of David BATE)

married 1869, Warrington

Richard STOCKTON 1847 - 1906
(son of Thomas & Mary STOCKTON prev Fidler nee Bate)

it gets very confusing with so many BATE and STOCKTON families

lol

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Re: The case of Mary BATE
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 July 12 17:26 BST (UK) »
odd fathers name is James Bate if Mary Bate was her widowed name - or was she using her maiden name?
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Re: The case of Mary BATE
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 July 12 18:25 BST (UK) »
I'm suspecting it was in error that she had her maiden name used as her married surname on the certificate

since found a BATE daughter of Mary, baptised in Warrington, before Mary's marriage - the 1841 entry confirms the Bate daughter's first name and the family's surname of Fidler

phew!

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Re: The case of Mary BATE
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 July 12 08:16 BST (UK) »
probably of no consequence but thought i would add anyway, i have a martha bate born around 1838 warrrington who wed our ancestor john sefton and emigrated with her husband and mother sarah to u s a - could be some relative?
sephton/sefton, dutton, cooper, reynolds, hulme, mclean, lewell, austin, gerrard, brown.

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Re: The case of Mary BATE
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 July 12 15:42 BST (UK) »
thanks for sharing - so many BATE / STOCKTON it gets confusing  :-\ ;D

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Re: The case of Mary BATE
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 December 18 12:22 GMT (UK) »
UPDATE

It was brought to my attention the area as follows (not Sunderland as first thought)

Dunham Massey was a township in Bowdon ancient parish, Bucklow hundred, which became a civil parish in 1866.
It includes the hamlets of Dunham Town, Dunham Woodhouses, Oldfield Brow (until 1920) and Sinderland Green (Cheshire).
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