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Re: Edward Tuckwell
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 July 12 03:29 BST (UK) »
Hi
How much information is on the SA certificates? What is his place of birth on the marriage certificate? Do you have his death certificate and does it give a time in the colonies or place of birth. The usual questions.

You say ther is no other record of Edward Tuckwell in Tassie after 1836, plenty of time for him to get to Sa by 1851.
What occupation was the SA Edward, if he was the same fellow my guess would be a labourer of some kind.

I can't find any births for Edward Tuckwell on Family search either.

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 July 12 03:40 BST (UK) »
Mum mum, South Australian certificates are very like English certificates, and have limited information on them. In fact, our indexes have almost as much as the actual certificate.

I've only discovered all this in the last couple of weeks when I confirmed that the Edward Tuckwell who was given as the father of the child Edward Tuckwell in 1851 was the right one. as there are two Edward Tuckwells having children called Edward Tuckwell in South Australia within a 9 year period. I have asked a friend who can access the microfiche images of certificates to check out Edward senior's marriage and death certs to see if they reveal any other information, but it is doubtful. His death certificate doesn't even name a relation. I have my fingers crossed though!

No idea of the occupation of Edward Tuckwell  I'm trying to track, except that he was a labourer.


And there's nothing on F*P either!


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Re: Edward Tuckwell
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 29 July 12 04:01 BST (UK) »
Familiar  topic of trying to untangle the 2 Edward Tuckwells http://www.encounterbayfhg.org.au/the-dangers-of-online-trees   :)

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Re: Edward Tuckwell
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 29 July 12 04:03 BST (UK) »
It looks like Benjamin CLEGG and his wife Mary (as recorded on manifest) arrived in Tasmania in 1843 on the ship Elizabeth Jane.  They were from Doncaster in Yorkshire.

Child Susannah born in 1844 in Tasmania to Benjamin CLEGG and Ann LEE, and they were in SA by 1846 for the birth of son Benjamin.

The only thing wrong with this is that Benjamin CLEGG married Ann LEE in Doncaster in 1842, so the manifest must be incorrect.

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Re: Edward Tuckwell
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 July 12 04:06 BST (UK) »
My Blog, Ros!   ;)   ;D   ;D   ;D

It looks like Benjamin CLEGG and his wife Mary (as recorded on manifest) arrived in Tasmania in 1843 on the ship Elizabeth Jane.  They were from Doncaster in Yorkshire.

Child Susannah born in 1844 in Tasmania to Benjamin CLEGG and Ann LEE, and they were in SA by 1846 for the birth of son Benjamin.

The only thing wrong with this is that Benjamin CLEGG married Ann LEE in Doncaster in 1842, so the manifest must be incorrect.

Debra  :)


Manifest needn't be wrong, Debra.......Ann lee married her third husband as Mary Ann Tuckwell, father John Lee.   

That's a help.....seeing as the notorious Ann is my children's ggg-grandmother! Not sure they'll be happy to hear it though!    ;D   ;D   ;D
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Re: Edward Tuckwell
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 29 July 12 04:30 BST (UK) »
Yes I thought of the "Mary Ann" thing after I posted.

I wonder why she didn't actually tell the truth at the trial.  She implies that Susannah was a babe in arms when they arrived, but she was definitely born in Tasmania.  The ship arrived in Feb 1843 and Susannah's birth was registered in April 1844.  They didn't have a baby onboard with them.  Perhaps she wanted to avoid the possible stigma attached to being born in Tasmania.

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 29 July 12 04:38 BST (UK) »
(Mary) Ann Lee seems to have been quite experienced in ignoring the truth.
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The following birth has me wondering.....is the mother in this one also the (Mary) Ann Lee in question?

Thomas CLEG born 12th May 1858 at McLaren Vale
Parents = Thomas Smithers CLEG & Ann LEE
Ref = Wil  13/508


I haven't found any other mention of a Thomas Smithers Cleg.

It's a maze to be untangled, this lot!    ;D


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Re: Edward Tuckwell
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 29 July 12 04:42 BST (UK) »
There's a Benn Clegg and a Benjamin Clegg in 1841 in Doncaster that are likely, the first aged 20 and the second 15. But ages were rounded down.

I'm going to order the marriage certificate for Benjamin Clegg and Ann Lee, as at the very least it will hopefully give me more information about Ann Lee's father. (Though I won't count on it!!!!)


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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
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Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Edward Tuckwell
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 29 July 12 04:50 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I am not reading proper today.  They came to SA from Tas. when Susannah was a babe in arms, not from England to Tas.  :P

Debra  :)