BELGIUM/GERMANY: Look up request - Herman

[Buttonphobic]

Trying to find where great great grand parents came from. oldest record i have is    Charles/john/Adolph Hermann b 1847 and his wife Marie Anne Molilue both German British subjects. Charles went by all 3names bu mainly Adolph.In 1881 they were living in St Pancras London but do not have any older info except that they were married at le grand plas in Brussels and several of their children were born in Belgium. Many thanks in advance.

[rosie99]

Hi Buttonphobic

Welcome to rootschat 

Does their marriage certificate give any information on their parents or any other people present   

Could you please give the details from the 1881 census.

Rosie.

[Buttonphobic]

Thanks Rosie, Theyre under the name of Heermann in the 1881 census . Other occupants include Claira Louisa Marie Dolffine all daughters. living at 15Grafton place st Pancras.

[rosie99]

Thank you 

I presume the marriage cert is no use for further information 

For anyone looking
1881
I can't read the first name of the head of the house in 1881 but he is age 36 occ Cabinet Maker bn Germany
his wife Marie is 36 bn Germany
Claira 11 bn Brussells
Louisa 10 bn Brussells
Marie 5 bn Brussells
Dolffine 1 bn St Pancras

[Buttonphobic]

Thanks for posting that Rosie

[ShaunJ]

I see that Adolph seems to be missing from censuses after 1891 , although Marie's marital status is not shown as widow.

Also that when daughter Marie (Marie Johanna) married John Wilson Allan in 1903 her father's name is shown as John Adolph Hermann.

There's a newspaper report in 1895 of an ill-treatment case brought by the wife of  Johann Adolph Hermann, 49, a German,  of Seaton Street (Morning Post,  18 April 1895). She said she had been married to him for 26 years and had been subjected to great brutality. He was given 3 months hard labour and bound over for 12 months.

[Buttonphobic]

Wow that newspaper report is something - horrible bloke..Anothet of his daughters got married in 1904 - Mabel Elizabeth and at her marriage Adolph had died. Maybe when he was released he went back to Germany where he died. Id love to know where he andhis wife came from.

[rosie99]

Wow that newspaper report is something - horrible bloke..Anothet of his daughters got married in 1904 - Mabel Elizabeth and at her marriage Adolph had died. Maybe when he was released he went back to Germany where he died. Id love to know where he andhis wife came from.

Perhaps he hadn't died by 1904.  The fact that the daughters marriage certificate states deceased does not always mean it's true, maybe as you said he returned to Germany alone.