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Tournayholm location
« on: Saturday 11 August 12 07:46 BST (UK) »
I've read about Tournayholm but don't know where its precise location was.
Can anyone help, please?
Cheers,
Bob
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Re: Tournayholm location
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 August 12 18:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Bob
If I google search it the chronicles (is that where you see it?) about the Armstrongs comes up and it says it is where the Kershope and Liddell waters meet.

I can't find Turnersholm on the old maps online but at least you can see where the waters meet below Newcastleton - and then you would have to play about and try older maps?


http://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch/view/?sid=74428505

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Re: Tournayholm location
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 August 12 19:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Barabara,
I was just wondering if anyone had map co-ordinates for it. It's amazing the finer details some people have!
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Bob
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Re: Tournayholm location
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 August 12 11:26 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I have a 1845 map and there is no village etc mentioned at the junction of the Kershope & Liddle, after Newcastletown there is only Dinnwiddie & Liddlebank and then you are into Northumberland.
Scottish Borders - Wait Binnie Aitchison Whitelaw Sligo Fairgrieve Fairburn Robinson Plenderlieth Robson Broadwith Park Dickie Kerr Wilson Lockie Oliver Brown Scott.
Ross & Cromarty, Forsyth Bain.
Kincardine, Forsyth Lownie.
Staffordshire - Smith Steele Hallmark Colclough Dunn Booth Frost.
Shropshire - Tennant.
Sheffield - Savage England Corn Trippett.
Lincolnshire - Savage Smalley Allitt Booth Addison Kirton.
Huntingdonshire - Corn Connington Randall Baxter Booth .

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Re: Tournayholm location
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 August 12 11:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks Beckey,
It's very likely somewhere that has ceased to exist. That region has several of those, sadly!
Cheers,
Bob
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Re: Tournayholm location
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 August 12 18:37 BST (UK) »
I didn't read it as a village, it was a place, just a field perhaps

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Re: Tournayholm location
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 August 12 18:44 BST (UK) »
I'm hoping it was a jousting centre, Barbara. I know jousting was popular in medieval times, so wondered if it was a location for tournaments? A field would fit the bill.
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Bob
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Re: Tournayholm location
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 August 12 22:00 BST (UK) »
Hounam ~ Dumfriesshire; Pettigrew, Scott ~ Hawick; Tweedie ~ Hawick and Moffat;

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Re: Tournayholm location
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 August 12 11:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks Walter. I'm keen to try & find proof of tournaments held there in earlier centuries. At various stages through medieval history, tourneying was banned, but it still occurred. I think during bans, Carlisle may have had to desist, but am sure the odd rural centre would have persevered, regardless.
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Bob
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