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Help needed - Birth of Catherine Sommerville and Robert Hewitt
« on: Sunday 19 August 12 12:50 BST (UK) »
My ancestor Catherine Sommerville married Robert Hewitt in 1843 in Portsmouth. Her father is listed as James Sommerville. I can't find her birth anywhere as the wedding certificate states where she was living at the time of the marriage, not where she resided. She was born in approx 1825. Robert was in the British Army and I believe this is where he was garrisoned with the 70th Regiment of Foot, he was a corporal. His father was unreadable, possibly Frank or Sanck. He was born in approx 1822. Can anyone help me find their births please.
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Re: Help needed - Birth of Catherine Sommerville and Robert Hewitt
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 August 12 12:54 BST (UK) »
Hi

Have you any idea when either of them were born please.  :)

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Re: Help needed - Birth of Catherine Sommerville and Robert Hewitt
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 August 12 12:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie, I don't know where and I can't seem to find them anywhere. I have modified my original post to include approx dates. Thanks Tiki
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Re: Help needed - Birth of Catherine Sommerville and Robert Hewitt
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 August 12 13:08 BST (UK) »
Did they stay in the UK?

Could you please give details from the marriage certificate including witnesses.

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Re: Help needed - Birth of Catherine Sommerville and Robert Hewitt
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 August 12 13:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie. No Robert was sent to India and Catherine went too. They married on the 7th October 1843 at St Thomas Church in Portsmouth. Robert was a corporal in the 70th Regiment, living at the Longstore Barracks, father was Sanck?? Hewitt who was a miller. Catherine lived at 13th or Bk Row and her father was James Sommerville, a weaver. Witnesses were Agnes Sommerville and Robt Harnion ( this is also hard to read) - these both were the marks of. Thank you for any help. Tiki
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Re: Help needed - Birth of Catherine Sommerville and Robert Hewitt
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 August 12 13:37 BST (UK) »
AMENDED

There is a James(?) Sommerville living in Portsea in 1841  :-\
H0107 / 414 
Book   6 Folio 41
Page 7

age 62 occ (crossed out) Warrant Officer Widow not bn in County
also there a Harriet Sommerville age 20 bn in County occ Dressmaker

I think that this is probably Jane not James - In 1851 a Jane Sommerville is living with dtr Harriott Scott -  Jane Sommerville, Mother in Law   Widow age  73   an Annuitant
bn Crail, Fifeshire




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Re: Help needed - Birth of Catherine Sommerville and Robert Hewitt
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 August 12 13:42 BST (UK) »
There is also a christening/burial at St Thomas, Portsmouth where Catherine was married on familysearch


Margaret Somerville
christening   24th January 1836   
death   21st June 1836   
parents   James Somerville,​ Catharine

These could be her parents

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Re: Help needed - Birth of Catherine Sommerville and Robert Hewitt
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 August 12 16:34 BST (UK) »
is this Robert's burial?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGL5-32J

and Catherine's remarriage

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGN4-62B

It could be coincidence, but there's an army record for a James Sommerville in the 70th regiment who was a weaver by trade, born Perth about 1797.

Children to George & Catherine

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG3X-L5H

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGSV-1Z6
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Help needed - Birth of Catherine Sommerville and Robert Hewitt
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 August 12 21:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you Osprey and Rosie, i have just realised something. Agnes Sommerville was a witness at the wedding in 1843 and Catherine named her daughter Agnes. So ... are there any Agnes's born before 1825 and maybe i can find a link that way to the family. Catherine was 18 when she married the first time working from her age at the time of the second marriage. I am presuming Agnes would have been older. Would that be correct to be a witness at a wedding?

Also Osprey where did you find the army record? That would help a lot to know and I could do side searching for James too.

Thanks again Tiki
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