Brick Wall

[Neil Todd]

Problem is........ now we have to find out who got where, when and how??

Probably by ship Huh?

Neil

[cando]

Neil am a bit lost with the info you are posting...if the information on the death certificate is correct, John's parents were Henry and Ann. I can't find a birth in Australia c1851 for a John BRAY with parents Henry and Ann.

There is this possibility:

6507/1904 
BRAY  John
Father  Henry
Mother  Ann 
NYMAGEE .

Nymagee is close to both Cobar and Canbelego, all are mining towns/ villages.

Leanne

John BRAY 53 years died 6 Jun 1904 and is buried in the Nymagee cemetery

Cando

There are three  births in district St Austell which could be his.

According to the census info, this may be John's parents' marriage.

Marriages Dec 1843
BRAY    Henry  St Austell    9/1     
PENHALL Ann St Austell    9/1

Cando

[Neil Todd]

But do you have the Right JOHN BRAY?

The reason I picked the family I have followed is Henry's Marriage was at Orange and my Henry's Family was at Orange.

No reason in particular if it is not the right one but it COULD BE. Only way to tell is get a Marriage cert, I would think and possibly 1st born here.
MODIFIED>.....OOPs forgot to mention my Henry and Grace are not on the 1861 CensusNeil

[ennael]

A possibility:
1851 Census
Piece: HO107/1906 Place: Fowey -Cornwall Enumeration District: 4e
Civil Parish: St. Blazey Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 309 Page: 38 Schedule: 128
Address: Church Street

 

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    Surname   First name(s)   Rel   Status   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born  
    BRAY   Henry   Head   M   M   30   Miner    Cornwall - St Stephans        
    BRAY   Ann   Wife   M   F   31       Cornwall - St Austle        
    BRAY   Henry   Son   U   M   7       Cornwall - St Austle        
    BRAY   Ann   Dau   U   F   5       Cornwall - St Blazey        
    BRAY   John   Son   U   M   1       Cornwall - St Blazey  

Apologies if this has been posted, I am getting a bit lost.

Leanne

[Neil Todd]

Not completly sure but I think the other John Bray parents Henry and Ann is still in cornwall and married to a Kate in 1881 census.

Neil

[muss]

Hi

I have just looked at all the pages of the WW1 record, first time I have seen a
photo of the grave in the records.  How sad


Muss

[Neil Todd]

This whole family could be slightly tied together.
A MARRIAGE
JOHN BRAY Married an EMMA  BRAY at NYMAGEE  Ref # 5030/1886

I have not found a birth for my Emma here although it may have been in Cornwall?

Neil

[cando]

Not completly sure but I think the other John Bray parents Henry and Ann is still in cornwall and married to a Kate in 1881 census.

Neil

1871 Census RG10/2237/19/79
Living at Common moore, St Cleer, Cornwall
BRAY Henry  51  Miner             Born Cornwall, St Stephens
BRAY Ann 53                         Born Cornwall St Blazey
BRAY John 19  Miner              Born Cornwall, St Blazey 
BRAY Elizabeth  17  Work to miner Born Cornwall, St Blazey
BRAY Mary J 13          "                 Born Cornwall, St Blazey
BRAY Richard 12         "                 Born Cornwall, St Blazey

Cando


1881 Census RG11/2329/78/20
Living at ****, Gwennap, Cornwall
BRAY John  29  Miner  Born Cornwall, Gwennap
BRAY Kate 32    Born Cornwall, Chacewater

Yes Muss I agree...so sad to see the photo of the grave.  I think the photo may have been returned from the Effie's address at Canbelego.  John certainly liked tattoos   I found a photo of a grave in one of my distant rellies WW1 service file.

Cheers
Cando

[Neil Todd]

Both Ellen and Emma Bray born in Corwall.

Neil