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Knapton - servants records
« on: Tuesday 28 August 12 17:02 BST (UK) »
my ancestor was a servant at somewhere called Knapton in the 1840s . How  might I find records relatin to this

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Re: Knapton - servants records
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 August 12 19:17 BST (UK) »
Knapton is  a townland in Abbeyleix parish. In Griffiths Valuation for 1850 there were just 5 households listed. The largest by far was that of Wm Brownlow Esq who had a farm, offices (outbuildings) and 127 acres. That seems the most likely property for your ancestors to have worked if they were servants. The Brownlows had left by the time of the 1901 census.

Knapton today is off the R433 south of Abbeyleix town.
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Re: Knapton - servants records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 September 12 20:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this. It has helped me as I can see online that William Brownlow was a deputy lieutenant of Monaghan and is listed as living at Knapton House. There also seems some family link with Abbeyleix. so there are some old estate papers to plough through.

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Re: Knapton - servants records
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 September 12 09:25 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Do you want to give us the names of your ancestors to see if we can find anything ?

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Re: Knapton - servants records
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 September 12 16:30 BST (UK) »
yes indeed.
The person particularly associated with Knapton was a Thomas McKenzie (sometimes spelt MacKenzie or M'Kenzie). The information I have on him is limited but he was married in Kilkenny at St Canice in 1864 to an Emelia Wetherley. He is described on the marriage record from Rootsireland as a "servant" from Knapton. He seems to have moved (possibly with the family?) to the areas of Knocktopher and Thomastown as his wife and child died there and he is described as a 'butler' on the daughter's death certificate in 1873.

Thank you for your offer.

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Re: Knapton - servants records
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 April 18 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Did you get anywhere with this as I too am searching for Thomas McKenzie who is my great great grandfather.

I have some basic info on him and his father John but am struggling to find birth or death records etc.

My family are all based in Scotland so its amazing to see that we have Irish ancestry as well.

Regards

Steve

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Re: Knapton - servants records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 April 18 11:29 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat Steve.
Daughter Sarah's birth cert 1871 is now free to view online, she was registered without a first name.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03271/2198768.pdf
Her death cert and her mother's should be free to view before the end of this year (fingers crossed)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Reg district Thomastown

Also Thomas and Amelia's marriage cert, Reg district Kilkenny later this year.
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You can't fish on a empty stomach so give the man one or two records so he knows how good it tastes.

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Re: Knapton - servants records
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 April 18 11:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this, much appreciated.

Its getting harder to track them in Ireland the further back I go