Person to be from one village to another in 1843 query.

[Aussie1947]

Hi from Australia,

I have a query re a record that I found on the Cambridgeshire County Council CALM Stilton Parish Church archive collection reference (HP83/13/3/45) which refers to "Robert Busby to be removed from Benefield, Northamptonshire to Stilton", 9th January 1843.

I haven't been in contact with the Council as yet to get a copy of the archived document but it looks like Robert might have been in some sort of trouble to have been removed form Benefield to Stilton.

I fomd Robert on the 1841 Census at Benefield.

Has anyone have any clues to what the removal might mean.

Regards
Gerry

[karenlee]

Hi

It might have something to do with him being in receipt of Parish Relief and which Parish was responsible for these payments?

You can read about the Poor Relief Act online which explains about Parishes of Settlement and the Removal Act.


Karenlee

[Aussie1947]

Karenlee,

Thanks for the fast reply I'll check out the Removal Act.

Robert Busby would have been 29 at the time and he was married in June 1843 (Oundle Reg Dist) the same year he was removed.

Gerry

[bedfordshire boy]

He was living in Benefield with no right to be there, as his parish of settlement was Stilton. If it looked as though he might be claiming parish relief the overseers of Benefield would have taken steps to remove him to his parish of legal settlement before he became a liability on their ratepayers.

The Removal Order won't show much apart from names of him, his wife and any children who were subject to the order. Of much more use would be the Settlement Examination where his background would have been examined so that his parish of settlement could be established.

[Aussie1947]

Bedfordshire Boy,

Thanks for the response and the information, I have now read a little bit on removal and settlement and it sure looks like he didn't qualify to be in Benefield.  It sure would be great to find out why he qualified for settlement at Stilton because I think he was born at Glatton and he married Alice Evans whom was born in Luddington around 1823.

Having fun chasing my early Busby/Ruff genealogy in Huntingdonshire.

Gerry

[bedfordshire boy]

If he was born in Glatton then he could have acquired settlement in Stilton by working there for a full year. The alternative is that his father's parish of settlement was Stilton, and unless he was illegitimate, which he wasn't, he automatically takes the parish of settlement of his father irrespective of where he was born. His Settlement Examination would show how he acquired settlement in Stilton, but the examination is likely to have been held in Northants and thus is likely to be held in Northamptonshire Records Office, if it survived. I don't think the Removal Order will add anything to what's in the CALM catalogue

There's a baptism in Glatton on 9 O)ct 1814 of Robert Ediss Busby, son of Henry & Sarah

Henry Busby married Sarah Pettit in Glatton in 1812 (Hunts marriage Index) or if you prefer, on 1 Dec 1813 (IGI)

David

[Aussie1947]

David,


Thanks for the tip on the removal order I'm happy assuming that he was ordered out of Benefield to Stilton in 1843 probably because he didn't qualify for settlement there.

Thanks for confirming Robert's parents I had the same info but  have relied on the IGI date for the marriage.  Wonder why the different years!

I think Henry Busby was baptised 11th Nov 1782 at Glatton and died in 1816 a couple of years into his marriege to Sarah Pettit and then Sarah went on to marry a John Jenks/Janks in 1821.

I think Henry's parents were Henry Busby/Buzby and Sarah Henstock married in 1882 at Glatton but I can't find a baptism for this Henry which would have been around 1860 I guess.  I found a William baptised in 1763 whom might have been his brother maybe.

My GGM was Elizabeth Busby born in Stilton around 1870 and came out to Queensland in 1889.

Gerry

[bedfordshire boy]

..........I'm happy assuming that he was ordered out of Benefield to Stilton in 1843 probably because he didn't qualify for settlement there.
 

There's no "probably" about it! He was removed from Benefield because it wasn't his parish of settlement

[Aussie1947]

Thanks Robert, I have crossed out "assumed removed" and inserted "was removed".

Robert Busby established himself at Stilton and raised his family there.

His mother, Sarah had remarried a John Jinks at Glatton in 1821 and they are on the 1841 Census at Benefield along with 6 children plus Robert Busby.  Robert was removed in 1843 to Stilton and is on the 1851 Census at Stilton  while John & Sarah Jinks in 1851 are at Oundle.

Once again thanks for your knowledgible assistance, I see that I will need to read more about the Poor Laws and Poor Law Unions to get a better understanding of the lives of my early ancesters most of whom were agricultural workers of labourers.

Gerry