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Re: Missing Person born c1881 Newcastle or Armidale NSW
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 September 12 22:23 BST (UK) »
Plot thickens a little :o

Death in Tamworth 1940.
GRACE ALICE NEWMAN Father WILLIAM Mother MARY AMELIA at TAMWORTH Ref # 16341/1940

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Re: Missing Person born c1881 Newcastle or Armidale NSW
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 September 12 22:58 BST (UK) »
Can I ask what your grandfathers work was and where did he live?

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Re: Missing Person born c1881 Newcastle or Armidale NSW
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 September 12 23:17 BST (UK) »
Oh yes, I think you have got to have as laugh at Amelia's husbands name. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Newman Oldman who's he kidding ;D

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Re: Missing Person born c1881 Newcastle or Armidale NSW
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 13 September 12 23:35 BST (UK) »
Methinks Amelia may have had an affair with a fellow definitely of Swedish origin or Scandinavian at least AND his surname was LINDBECK.

There was a whole family of them in Braidwood around this time.
See Monaro Pioneers.
 http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I91347&tree=MP

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Re: Missing Person born c1881 Newcastle or Armidale NSW
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 13 September 12 23:39 BST (UK) »
The earliest records I have of my grandfather is his Intention to Marry and his marriage certificate -  both dated 16th January 1908 in Wellington, New Zealand. He was a master plasterer by trade working mainly in Wellington but did travel to other parts of the country on contracts. He retired to Hastings in the 1960s where he died in 1953 -  reported age 70.

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Lindale/Lindhal/Lindahl - Scandanavia - Denmark- Sweden
Olsen ,Christiansen - Norway
Bergstrom, Lamberg, Pasche- Sweden
Crundwell,Myers,Wilson -UK
Byrne,Miskelly,McGrevy,McGreavy, McGreevy -Ireland
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Re: Missing Person born c1881 Newcastle or Armidale NSW
« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 September 12 01:15 BST (UK) »
Lindbeck

There are no records at NZ BDM or on the Electoral Rolls for a Lindbeck.

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04/12/1938 - Jan 16th 2021
Lindale/Lindhal/Lindahl - Scandanavia - Denmark- Sweden
Olsen ,Christiansen - Norway
Bergstrom, Lamberg, Pasche- Sweden
Crundwell,Myers,Wilson -UK
Byrne,Miskelly,McGrevy,McGreavy, McGreevy -Ireland
Swanson, Newman
Chrestenson,Whitmore
St Romain//de St Romain,Nozace-Reunion
de Silva -Argentina, The Philippines

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Re: Missing Person born c1881 Newcastle or Armidale NSW
« Reply #15 on: Friday 14 September 12 03:11 BST (UK) »
There are plenty where Alice or Amelia married. The Monaro area of NSW.
just one family
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/IndexSearch?form=IndexingSearch&cgiurl=%2Fcgi-bin%2FIndex%2FIndexingBirth.cgi&sname=Lindbeck&gname=&fname=&mname=alice&event=births&frange=1850&trange=1900&place=&SessionID=36065484&x=48&y=13.


I don't think young Lindhal? Knew anything much about his forebears for whatever reason. But presumably because of a possible union out of wedlock :o

I think you could confuse, Linbeck and Lindhal. Also Swanson with Swinburn. She seems to have varied her first names around reasonably well to possibly confuse things even more.

Only my thoughts though. But was she the same mother, she was certainly in those places around the right time?

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Re: Missing Person born c1881 Newcastle or Armidale NSW
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 September 12 04:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Neil

Thanks for that -  I also looked at "PapersPast" (NZs version of Trove) for Lindbeck and found only one entry and this realtes to a young Swedish lady who was seven months pregnant and hung herself in Plimlico (UK) leaving quite a sad note on her reasons for ending her life.

So it was in the NZ Papers but the event was elsewhere - so no Lindbeck news in nZ.

My grandfather seems to have arrived in NZ with a diferent name as there are no shipping records of a LINDALE arrival and there does not appear to be a LINDALE birth in Australia even though his first wedding announcement described him as the eldest son of Mr H LINDHAL of Newcastle - in fact the announcemnt in the Evening Post of 17th January 1908 had his name as LINDHAL -  unlike the LINDALE which is on the marriage certificate. That announcement indicates he had other siblings.

I must say that information on wedding certificates can be misleading -  for example Albert'dsecond wife put down her place of birth as Dunedin, whereas after a lot of digging aroung I found she was born in Oatlands, Tasmania -  she did spend her early years in Dunedin living with her grandfather (who she said was her father on ther certificate)

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DonL
04/12/1938 - Jan 16th 2021
Lindale/Lindhal/Lindahl - Scandanavia - Denmark- Sweden
Olsen ,Christiansen - Norway
Bergstrom, Lamberg, Pasche- Sweden
Crundwell,Myers,Wilson -UK
Byrne,Miskelly,McGrevy,McGreavy, McGreevy -Ireland
Swanson, Newman
Chrestenson,Whitmore
St Romain//de St Romain,Nozace-Reunion
de Silva -Argentina, The Philippines

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Re: Missing Person born c1881 Newcastle or Armidale NSW
« Reply #17 on: Friday 14 September 12 04:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Don,

I have looked for your elusive chap on some of your earlier threads, and alas I have not knowingly found him in NSW.   But, of course, I will keep trying.    At the moment I am not near my paper copies of various NSW electoral rolls from the 19thC or pre WW1, so I am relying on online searchings only, ie none of those early NSW rolls are readily available.

BUT .....  have you considering the following NSW birth? 

It was registering in the Manning River district, but earlier than I have previously looked....  (While not Newcastle or Armidale, it is 'up that general way, ie Taree and district')

1869,  Albert C LINDMAN, son of Gustaf R and Mary AC (Lindman).   The NSW BDM ref is #12651.  Of course transcriptions are a better option if you do not already have that cert. 

Cheers,  JM  PS, That's a good find Neil,  there's Deceased Estates and Bankruptcy files under that spelling at NSW SR,  sorry I cannot do live links as I am on my e reader.  Perhaps Neil can rescue me please  ;D
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