perry's in wiltshire & perry green?

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Hi in 1841 I can see a Sarah Evett aged 9 with Amelia 3 George/Jane plus more on HO107/665/ 8/8 / 11 Islington
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Hi again Keyboard,
Searched the papers and have found the will of Sarah Grace dated 1851 .Spent from 3:20 to just now transcribing it ! Haven't finished but my hand has given up ! Success in that she leaves money in trust to Louisa Elizabeth Maslen Perry and also to Louisa's sister Sarah Maslen Evet.

What I don't know is the link between Sarah Grace who we think was previously married to a Chandler. A James Chandler is an executor to this will.

I remember my late Aunt saying something about thinking that Sarah Grace may have had a baseborn child when she was Maslen. But I have no evidence so far.

With the gap in age between Louisa and Sarah maybe there were other children but until I can find where Louisa was born I think I'm stuck.

There are still many documents that I have not transcribed so maybe something will turn up. I do know that my late Aunt had a tendency to forget bits towards the last few years of her life and had me running round looking for info and then I found it in the paperwork !

Thank you so much for helping. I'm out this evening.But will be back on task tomorrow.
 Miggs

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Hi again in 1851:-

George Evett 59 occ Greengrocer b St Andrews, Middx
Jane 48 b St James West, Middx
Amelia 13 b St Andrews, Middx
Census ref HO107/1499/405/29

In 1861 a George Evett 68 occ Lodging House Keeper b London, Middx is with a Jane 52 b London, Middx at Tonbridge, Kent
RG09/494/43/23
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Brilliant keyboard .This looks promising.

I've spent the morning searching files and files and files..........

but found some scraps of paper that my Aunt wrote years ago (I threw nothing away) that talks about Louisa's Aunt from 1841 census The Castle and that she was married to Chandler including dates !

She had me searching for this ! The Aunt who was also a Sarah appears to be the daughter of Elizabeth Maslen born 1790 in Upavon .That should mean that Louisa 's mother was also a daughter but of course it could be the George Maslen Louisa puts as a grocer on her marriage cert.is a son.But this still doesn't help with Covent Garden being the place of birth.

What I can not find is the evidence.Auntie was very good at cross checking and proving what she had found.

Interesting that Evet is a grocer too as they may have adopted them as a favour or maybe they knew each other through business or maybe the girls ended up in a workhouse and as it was Covent Garden there were lots of grocers in the area.

Louisa inherits most from Sarah Grace's complicated will.It appears that William Grace of the Castle used her money when she married him but it was a settlement and she would get the money back.
She also refers to Louisa's sister Sarah Maslen Evet. I am thinking that Sarah Grace/Chandler was Louisa's Aunt not Mary Sarah Sissons Aunt. I know Mary Sarah Sissons was in The Castle Hotel on the census but that does not mean she lived with her as Louisa had her own business to run with her sister in The Brittox Devizes.Mary may have been with her Aunt/great Aunt just on that night .

Thank you so much for the info and thank you from my late Aunt ! She was always amazed that people on Roots Chat would help. She started the search in 1946.In those days she couldn't drive and went everywhere on the bus and train.She never married but her genealogy family was her life.Now she is part of that genealogy.   

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Hi again, will look some more tonight but followed George through to the bitter end, he looks to have possibly died a pauper in the Workhouse at Gravesend he is on the 1871 there  but dies as EVETTS in 1874, Jane dies same area prior to him.
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Hi again, I was wondering why Amelia & Sarah were baptised some time after their birth, I wonder if this possible marriage certificate would hold clues?

Marriage George Evett to ( on same page)  Jane MASLIN March qtr 1838 v1 page 48 St Giles & St George Bloomsbury?
Birth Amelia Evett June qtr 1838 Holborn v2 page 147

Also just who is the Louisa E Sampson aged 45 Married b St Pancras with John B Banks & Mary S S Banks shown as wife's sister in 1901 Enfield?
I note that John B Banks plus 2 sons were workers at the Royal Small Arms factory which employed many people in the Enfield area, it was in Ordnance Road, Enfield Highway, a fascinating museum plus protected buildings like Goverment Row are all that remain, the family lived close to the old "Gun & Magpie" pub.

Emily Imison Perry Dec qtr 1855 Strand 1b 364
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Hi Keyboard, Thats's them !

Very sad family.Small amounts of money inherited from all over the place meant they were comfortable.It makes really interesting reading. Louisa Elizabeth ended her days in the workhouse for those mentally ill. Her daughter Mary Sarah Sissons ended up with six sons and an illegitimate daughter ! We knew nothing of the daughter until finding the relevant solicitors' documents. Mary was my grandfather's mother.
The family ended up at the Small Arms Factory and almost all of them worked there at some point or other. My grandfather was too old to be called up for WW1 but had to work in the RSA. He would tell the story that he had to work nights and was given a quota to complete.He always finished early and would ask for more to do. The answer 'thats all right you don't need to do any more ! ' He always said it was a miracle we produced enough for the battles considering the attitude !

Mary's sons were supposed to receive a good education but my great grandfather lost his job and house on the estate at Honey Bottom Farm in Newbury.They went to London around 1894.There are copies of the letters that Mary wrote to her solicitor asking them to sell the last bits of silver ! She states that her husband 'is a poor white haired old man who can not get work' he was fifty ! 
My aunt started looking in 1946 because she remembered Mary her grandmother talking about there being money in the family and hence the search began !
Still looking for Louisa's birth but have a lot more ideas now due to your help.Thank you.
Maggie

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Hi have you looked for Mary S S Banks in 1911, a free search suggests she is not in Enfield? Also so just who is Louisa E Sampson?

Death John Biggs Banks June qtr 1908 Edmonton 3a 279 aged 61



Also are you certain Matilda Imison is the mother of Alice Percy Perry, as it seems odd that middle name?
That marriage of George to Jane is surely one that would possibly assist you?!

And finally, where did George Henry and Sarah Maslen Eagleton/Eggleton go after marriage in 1854, and Amelia Evett b 1838 shown as witness to the marriage?

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Hi again in addition to above post, I followed Matilda Imison from 1861 census :-

1871 census

Samuel Percey 52 occ Farm Baliff b Devizes
Louisa 49 b Middlesex
Ann Parker Daughter 22 b Wiltshire
Emily Percey 14 b Middlesex
Alice Percey 13 b Middlesex
Lilian Parker 4 b Oxfordshire
Matilda Imson 35 b Middlesex
Residing at Private House, Britwell Priory, Henley, Oxfordshire
Census ref RG10/1428/59/3

Birth Lilian P C Parker Dec qtr 1866 Henley 3a 542

In 1881 Census a Lilian Perry aged 14 b Whatlington is a Governess/Pupil at River Street, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Census ref RG11/2060/68/4

In 1891 census :-

Louisa Sampson 35 Married b St Ann, Middlesex
Lilian Perry 23 Sister b Watlington
Arthur T Sampson 12 b San Francisco United States
Brice? D Sampson 5 b Reading
Thurza Wedge 2 b Reading
William H Pasman 1 b Middlesex
Residing at Glenbeith Terrace, Western Road,  Reading, Berkshire
Census ref RG12/991/146/25

Living close by is:-

Alfred J Bilson 29 b Reading
Alice P Bilson 27 b St Pancras
Ruby A Bilson 3 months b Reading
Residing at Western Road, Reading
Census ref RG12/991/145/24

Marriage 17th February 1890 St Mary, Reading

Alfred John Bilson 27
Alice Percy Perry 26
Grooms Father William Bilson
Brides Father John Perry
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