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Dedicated grave
« on: Friday 14 September 12 13:33 BST (UK) »
Hi all!
I'm very sorry if this has been asked before, I've had a quick look and couldn't see anything!
Anyway I recently found my great grandfathers grave and the lady who manages the graveyards in Watford was very helpful and gave me lots of information. The graveyard is split into consecrated and dedicated graves and my great grandfather was in the dedicated section. I have tried to find out what this means and am still none the wiser! My question is what is the difference between a consecrated and dedicated grave and what does this mean?
Many thanks in advance for your help!
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Re: Dedicated grave
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 September 12 08:49 BST (UK) »
Basically for non conformists. Non conformists sometimes had their own burial grounds but in other cases burial grounds were divided. Dedication is a stage below Consecration, a similar situation applied to hospital chapels which allowed non conformist patients to hold their own services. Also in the case of a cemetery a suicide death was normally buried outside of the Consecrated land. I believe in Londonderry a wall 14 feet in depth goes underground to divide different religions.

Institutions such as workhouses, prisons etc often had such areas to accommodate non conformists' burials.
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Re: Dedicated grave
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 September 12 09:25 BST (UK) »
Hi!
Thank you very much for your reply!! It's very interesting! I think I may have to do a bit more research on him!
Daniel
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French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
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Re: Dedicated grave
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 September 12 07:54 BST (UK) »
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Suicides deemed to be of 'unsound mind', the vast proportion of suicides, would be buried in the churchyard. From 1823 onwards the Right to Burial Act (England and Wales) allowed for the burials of all suicides in churchyards.

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Re: Dedicated grave
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 September 12 11:39 BST (UK) »
Hi! Thank you very much for that! It's very interesting!
The graveyard where my great grandad is buried is not in a churchyard, although there is a little chapel you can use should you wish. The graveyard is closed to burials now though. I spoke to my great grandads daughter who is still alive and she said he died naturally so I'm not sure why he's in that section!!
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Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
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Re: Dedicated grave
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 September 12 11:59 BST (UK) »
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If you have someone to ask was the family strong Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists etc.. that would mean he would be buried there.

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Re: Dedicated grave
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 September 12 12:02 BST (UK) »
Hi!
I have asked her but she said he wasn't very religious. Not sure what denomination he was though. I know a lot of the family, including myself, were christened Methodist so I wonder whether he was too?
The dedicated section in the graveyard is quite large too! Almost half of the graves are in the dedicated section!
Daniel
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Re: Dedicated grave
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 September 12 12:10 BST (UK) »
having had a quick read about it could include Roman Catholics too. basically anything that wasn't Church of England was non-conformist. So they probably buried him there for that reason. You may have trouble finding baptism records if he was Methodist, like my family, records seem to have been lost as chapels closed down or just not kept in the same way as churches. that is my experience anyway but good luck. :)

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Re: Dedicated grave
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 September 12 12:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for that!! I'll have to do a bit more research I think and see what I can find out!!
Seabrook and Doggett Abbots langley, Herts
Robinson, Oxford
Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
Barrs, Leicstershire/London