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Rogers/Purdie connection
« on: Friday 14 September 12 19:17 BST (UK) »
I've spent oodles of time trying to find the connection between this lady and Tam Purdie. I'm sure it's her married name that is mentioned (Rogers) as that is the maiden name of my grandmother and the article states that she bears *purdie's* name. Unfortunately the news clipping is not dated but I'm fairly certain it was published in Crieff. I've attached the original old clipping that was in our family bible. Also here is text from an entry in an Australian Newspaper published May 29, 1909, so one would expect she was born 1809 or 1808. It also seems at least one of her children moved to Australia. If I'm posting in the wrong group let me know please, but so far almost 100% of my mother's ancestors are from the Rutherglen area or have connections there. My great grandfather is pictured in "Rutherglen Lore". Any help would be very much appreciated. As an aside, I'm quite surprised that the famous Tam does not have a wiki page. At least not that I could find. He is mentioned of course in Sir Walter Scott's page, but does not have his own.

"Mrs. Rogers, of Crieff, Scotland, an aunt
of Mr. W. R. Thomson, of Mount Barker,
completed her IOOth year on April 4. Mrs.
Rogers has good hearing and eyesight, a
voice cleat and lusty in tone, and a good
memory. She enjoys excellent health, and
takes an active interest in domestic affairs.
She possesses a beautiful silver tea service
given to her by the grandparents of the
Right Hon. A. J. Balfour oft her marriage
over 60 years ago. Mrs. Rogers' grand
uncle, known as "Tam Purdie," was long a
favorite servant, of Sir Walter Scott, the
author of the Waverley novels."

Sincere thanks for any help or pointing me in the right direction. If the clipping is too small to read I can try and resize it again. It was too big for this site.

Jean from Alberta, Canada
Paternal: Peacock, Thomason, Mackenzie, Merritt, Coulthard

Fraternal: Purdy, Rogers, Wright, McAulay, Maclean, Leadbetter, Mckell, Neil, Park

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Re: Rogers/Purdie connection
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 September 12 21:48 BST (UK) »
On ScotlandsPeople there is a death in 1910 in Crieff of a Marion Rogers or Leadbetter aged 101. It should name her parents and husband, which might help.
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland

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Re: Rogers/Purdie connection
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 September 12 22:37 BST (UK) »
The close of the autumn was embittered by a sudden and most unexpected deprivation. Apparently in the fullest enjoyment of health and vigour, THOMAS PURDIE leaned his head one evening on the table, and dropped asleep. This was nothing uncommon in a hard-working man; and his family went and came about him for several hours, without taking any notice. When supper was ready, they tried to awaken him, and found that life had been for some time extinct. Far different from other years, Sir Walter seemed impatient to get away from Abbotsford to Edinburgh. ‘I have lost,’ he writes (4th November) to Cadell, ‘my old and faithful servant—my factotum—and am so much shocked, that I really wish to be quit of the country and safe in town. I have this day laid him in the grave. This has prevented my answering your letters.’
The grave, close to the Abbey at Melrose, is surmounted by a modest monument, having on two sides these inscriptions—
_In grateful remembrance of the faithful and attached services of twenty-two years, and in sorrow for the loss of a humble but sincere friend; this stone was erected by Sir Walter Scott, Bart., of Abbotsford.
Here lies the body of THOMAS PURDIE, wood-forester at Abbotsford, who died 29th October 1829, aged sixty-two years.—’Thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things._’—St Matthew, chap. xxv. ver. 21st.”
The Life of Sir Walter Scott, CHAPTER XV,  John Lockhart.

http://www.scotiana.com/melrose-abbey-a-king-a-wizard-and-sir-walter-scott%E2%80%99s-faithful-servant-buried-there/

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Re: Rogers/Purdie connection
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 September 12 22:51 BST (UK) »
According to census records Marion was born in Peeblesshire

Marriage record

26/03/1842 ROGERS JOHN and MARION LEADBITTER at WHITTINGEHAME /EAST LOTHIAN

1841 census

Margaret M Tarlan 50
Manny ??? Leadbetter 30 born outside county occ F.S.
Elizabeth Mitchel 20
Barbary Wear 45
George Dixon 20
Mary M Farlon 50

Address: Whittingham House, East Lothian


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Re: Rogers/Purdie connection
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 September 12 22:54 BST (UK) »
Possible BAPTISM

14/05/1809 LEADBETTER MARION daughter of ALEXANDER LEADBETTER and MARGARET BRUNTON at  INNERLEITHEN /PEEBLES

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Re: Rogers/Purdie connection
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 September 12 23:16 BST (UK) »
Article states Tam Purdie was her Grand uncle i.e. the uncle of her father or mother

Going that far back will be difficult to establish the connection without knowing which line to follow

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Re: Rogers/Purdie connection
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 September 12 05:27 BST (UK) »
Yes! Tis truly hard to go back that far and I'm only a novice at it. I'm on ancestry.ca and also scotlandspeople and now here, and everyone has been such a good teacher. :) I'm amazed what a wee bit of accurate information can lead to. :)

About which line to follow is a mystery for sure. It says in the clipping he is her grand uncle but also "and whose name she bears"...

I find that very confusing. I would presume then that it was a maiden name, but it didn't turn out that way. My next thought was perhaps a middle name, but there is no evidence so far. So, I'm perplexed. I have found her parents and neither are a Purdie. It gets stranger and stranger. :)

Her father is Alexander Leadbetter born 1780? And her mother is Margaret Brunton of the same year. Again, no Purdies!!???? :) I'm inclined towards the maternal side I think but tis a real mystery and I hope to solve it with some digging and thanks for the help!!

Jean


Article states Tam Purdie was her Grand uncle i.e. the uncle of her father or mother

Going that far back will be difficult to establish the connection without knowing which line to follow
Paternal: Peacock, Thomason, Mackenzie, Merritt, Coulthard

Fraternal: Purdy, Rogers, Wright, McAulay, Maclean, Leadbetter, Mckell, Neil, Park

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Re: Rogers/Purdie connection
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 September 12 08:28 BST (UK) »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5727473

I can't see the part that states  "and whose name she bears"...


This is the closest link I could find in the OPR's

22/11/1793 PURDY AGNAS and JAMES BRUNTON at DRUMELZIER /PEEBLES

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 September 12 15:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the names! Agnes is carried through so many times in so many generations. Where did you find this link? The quote is not from the Australian paper but from the old clipping from Crieff which I can read in the original. Sorry it's so small. In context it says, " A relative of hers was the favourite servant of Sir Walter Scott. This was "Tam Purdie", as he was called, who was her grand-uncle, and whose name she bears. She also well remembers having seen James Hogg the Ettrick Shepherd on several occasions at Innerleithen. Another of her vivid recollections is that of the excitement which prevailed in connection with Burke and Hare murders in Edinburgh about the year 1828, and where she witnessed a mob surrounding the house of Dr. Knox, who was associated with the infamous trade carried on by Burke and Hare. "

I haven't looked up what the rest is about but it's really interesting and I'm curious what "trade" is referred to. :)

Again thanks! I'm off to figure out the names you gave me. Big smile!



http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5727473

I can't see the part that states  "and whose name she bears"...


This is the closest link I could find in the OPR's

22/11/1793 PURDY AGNAS and JAMES BRUNTON at DRUMELZIER /PEEBLES
Paternal: Peacock, Thomason, Mackenzie, Merritt, Coulthard

Fraternal: Purdy, Rogers, Wright, McAulay, Maclean, Leadbetter, Mckell, Neil, Park