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« Reply #72 on: Friday 28 September 12 14:38 BST (UK) »
History of Goulburn Grammar School:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riversdale,_Goulburn

also ...just for interests sake:
Mr T A Murray , MP ...who gave the thunderstorm lecture at William's school house: His bio and pic!
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/murray-sir-terence-aubrey-2498

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #73 on: Friday 28 September 12 16:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Nick

Look at this record ..note the date:

http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/


Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #74 on: Friday 28 September 12 16:36 BST (UK) »
Deb - I'm not sure that link works  - it doesn't bring up a specific record

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« Reply #75 on: Friday 28 September 12 16:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks, spidermonkey ;

It's in reference to Donald Chisholm, clergyman:

CS318/6/46  Donald Chisholm, Abertarff, Invernessshire, Clergyman  1863

Nick's initial link to him was taken from : THE EDINBURGH GAZETTE, JULY 2, 1858.

This Document was on the National Archives, Scotland:
I'm not sure what it would reveal as the date is 5 years after the gazette article: It could be the exact same thing  :-\

Reference Title Date:
CS318 Court of Session: Concluded Sequestration Processes under 1856 Bankruptcy (Scotland) Act 1858-2007
CS318/6 Concluded Sequestration Processes under 1856 Act 1863
Country code GB
Repository code 234
Repository National Records of Scotland
Reference CS318/6/46
Title Donald Chisholm, Abertarff, Invernessshire, Clergyman
Dates 1863
Access status Open

It can be ordered online.

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #76 on: Friday 28 September 12 17:24 BST (UK) »
Hi again  :)

Thought I would follow up on your Bayne finds, Spidermonkey.

Elizabeth Chisholm in 1851:

Parish of Urquhart and Glenmoriston

Murdoch Bayne  Head  38  Innkeeper & farmer of 35 acres employing 3 labs  bn Dingwall
Elizabeth Bayne  Wife  35  bn Kiltarlity
Donald C Bayne  Son  5  bn Urquhart
Janet Bayne  Dau  3  bn Urquhart
Isabella Bayne  Dau  1  bn Urquhart
Janet Fraser  Serv  30  Cook  bn INverness
Ann Fraser  Serv  26  Housemaid  bn Boleskine
Christy Chisholm  Serv  21  House serv  bn Urquhart
Fanny McCleod  Serv  15  House serv  bn Boleskine

IN 1861 Donald Bain, 15 b Urquhart, scholar, is lodging at 33 King St, Inv. along with Mary Bain, 17, b Kiltarlity, scholar (his sister) in the home of Mary Grant.

In 1861:
Invermoriston Inn
Urquhart and Glenmoriston

Murdo Bayne ,46 innkeeper, b Dingwall, Ross
Elizabeth Bayne 45, b Kiltarlity
Jessie C Bayne 13 , b Glenmoriston, …is this Janet?
Isabella C Bayne 11, b ditto
Donald Mcgillivray 19 farm servant
Duncan McLennan 17 Stable boy
Simon McLennan 13 cowherd
Margaret Ross 25 housemaid
Jessie McDonald 19 cook
Catherine Fraser 15 sculley maid

looks like it was busy Inn with all that help! :)

1871
16 Bridge St, Inverness
Murdo Bayne 60 b Durywall (sic) ..Dingwall?
Mary Bayne 27 b Kiltarlity
Janet Bayne 22 b Glennorieston (sic)
John Robertson 21 Chencest Assistant ...errr could this mean Chemist's assistant?
Margaret Mclean 22 lodger
Sarah J Collie 28, lodger, scholar?
Mary Collie 16 , lodger scholar
Peter Collie 14 , ditto
John Stewart 22, Jeweller Chtician ??

I google the Inn and found this snippet, which can be ordered:

Link: http://www.ambaile.org.uk/en/newspapers/search_results.jsp?newspaper=0&PrimarySubject=0&startyear=*&endyear=*&keywords=&StartRow=17750&MaxRows=25

Buildings > Inns
Invermoriston Inn. Invernesshire. Murdoch Bayne: extensive alterations since coming to Inn in 1845
John O'Groat Journal Friday, September 30, 1853
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #77 on: Friday 28 September 12 17:30 BST (UK) »
sorry about the bad link ...try this and enter Murdoch Bayne into search area:

http://www.ambaile.org.uk/en/newspapers/index.jsp

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #78 on: Friday 28 September 12 18:05 BST (UK) »
more snippets:

deaths:
Munro, Roderick, innkeeper, Novar Arms Hotel, Evanton
Inverness Advertiser Friday, July 30, 1869

Munro, Ann Chisholm, Novar Arms Inn, Evanton
Inverness Advertiser Tuesday, March 4, 1856
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #79 on: Friday 28 September 12 20:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks majm for your earlier notes... I was too  tired when I saw them to respond, but they look good.

My Deb, you have been busy.  I am just starting my first cup of coffee (I know it's noon, but I wasn't in bed until after 4 am), so give me an hour or so to assimilate all the great stuff you found.  Really looks like we have the right William.

Nick
McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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« Reply #80 on: Friday 28 September 12 22:14 BST (UK) »
Deb, you must have magic search fingers.  I searched Trove and Am Baile and only found a fraction of the links to Wm Chisholm and Murdoch Bayne that you did.

Also, good find on Donald & Mary "Bain" in 1861; I had assumed Donald had died and now I can check them for marriages, etc in scotlandspeople.

I've sent a request to NAS for a quote on obtaining the 1863 sequestration file.

From Wiki, it appears the original location of the Goulburn Grammar school changed about 1858.  Couldn't find anything later, but early, early this a.m. I found a link to  the Goulburn Historical Society and sent email asking if they had info on William.

WOW!  I just noticed that the Ross letter to Chisholm is dated 1867... that implies that the 1864 death in Forbes (300+ km from Goulburn) is not our man.

I am now going to look more into requesting the Am Baile notices, but suspect they are not much more extensive than the brief bits shown.

Regards,

Nick

McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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