miller family in newbottle county durham

[kew19mary]

my great grandfather was John Miller married to Jane Patts they lived in Newbottle, the children were all born there Hannah, Robert, William, and Thomas and others. Lived in Back Lane, trying to find out who John's parents were.

[KGarrad]

Welcome to RootsChat!

Do you have any dates, to make the search easier?


Is this the family?
1851 census: reference HO107, Piece 2393, Folio 115, Page 6
Back Lane, Newbottle, Durham

Miller, John  Head  M  30  Ag Lab  b Muckleswick, Durham
Miller, Jane  Wife  F  30  b Helloe, Durham
Miller, Hannah  Daughter  F  4  b Newbottle
Miller, Robert  Son  M  2  b Newbottle
Miller, William  Son  M  11 months  b Newbottle
Miller, Thomas  Brother  M  21  Ag Lab  b Muckleswick

[kew19mary]

Hi,
date that I can verify is my great grandfather Robert Miller, born 1859, married to Emma Kershaw between jan 1880 and march 1880. Thinking his parents are John and Jane Miller, taking this from the 1871 census, Robert is 12years. John and Jane could both have been born abt 1821, John at muckleswick, Jane at Kelloe, not verified. Thanks, any help much appreciated.

[KGarrad]

There are at least a dozen John Miller's, born about the right time, in County Durham on the 1841 census.

Probably the best bet is to get the marriage certificate for John & Jane?

Reckon that's here:

March qtr 1846
Houghton-le-Spring district    vol 24, page 134

Miller, John
+ and on the same page +
Hudson, Jane

[JenB]

my great grandfather was John Miller married to Jane Patts they lived in Newbottle,

Where does the name Jane Patts come from?

[kew19mary]

I linked Jane Patts through 1841 Census by address Kelloe Long Law, this was the address given on the 1851  Census for the family, Jane's birthplace being Kelloe

[KGarrad]

Safer to get that marriage certificate?

Better still, one of the children's (Robert?) birth certificate which will give you Jane's maiden name.

[kew19mary]

Thanks thought marriage certificate a good idea. Will do this, but will continue to see if anyone knows more about the family in newbottle, love anecdotal stories and history. My pop belonged to the boys club in newbottle, have a lovely photo of him in a body builder pose. your help has been appreciated.

[JenB]

I linked Jane Patts through 1841 Census by address Kelloe Long Law, this was the address given on the 1851  Census for the family, Jane's birthplace being Kelloe

As Kevin says, you need documentary evidence - you can't just simply assume that Jane Patts was his wife on the basis of a birthplace.

I too think that you should start with the birth certificate of one of their children, this will give you Jane's maiden name. Then you will be able to get the correct marriage certificate.